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    Posted: 14 Oct 08 at 8:48pm
hmm back on topic - couldnt be bothered to read the last 7 pages :D

All this stuff about videoing? And demonstrating stuff? I did GCSE PE and chose sailing as one of my options - all I had to do was get an instructor to sign a bit of paper saying I was A* standard. Is this just my school being cr*ppy?

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The loan system (at least, as it was set up in Scotland when i was at uni- graduated two years ago) appreared to me to favour the richer students in as much as my debt on leaving was around a third of that of a friend from a lower income family- I couldn't actually get as much debt as he could. Meanwhile the "abuse" of having divorced parents was taken to the extreme by some who took the maximum loan and invested it in ISAs, whilst being financially supported by a parent.
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ASok,

The reason the loan system is fairer is because it levels the playing field. Everyone has to have the loan to get through uni whether they be poor or middle-class the only exception is the wealthy but it wall always be easier for them.

If you use a grant system it favours the poor, as they can claim the full grant, the wealthy dont have an issue as they can afford their education and the middle-classes suffer as generally their parents earn too much to warrant a grant but their disposable income is virtually nil.

The loan system should also encourage people to only go to uni if they feel they can get the successful career to pay it off and should deter those who just dont know what to do with their lives. Unfortunately in recent times society has forgotton the value of money and as such young people believe that credit cards and loans provide 'free' money.

Anyway regarding GCSE PE, it sounds like a great idea but how is it supposed to demonstrate a well rounded education? Hobbies are hobbies not subjects to be taken for meaningful educational qualifications. Stick to the core subjects, Maths, Sciences, Woodwork & Metalwork, Geography.

In life you need to be able to solve problems, fix things and know where your going, not prove to a bloke with elbow patches on his tweed jacket that you can tack and gybe.



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Of course, a kid doing their GCSEs would probably have found out that Bill Gates never said any of those things. And they weren't said, they were written. And not recently....

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Post Options Post Options   Quote winging it Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Oct 08 at 3:17pm
I think anything that encourages kids and schools into sport has to be a good thing.  Too many schools no longer do matches etc after school hours, the hours spent doing PE of any kind have been cut, and too many have sold off their playing fields in a desperate bid to keep afloat financially.

At the same time we see an increase in childhood obesity. 

Not rocket science, is it?

(I crashed through my O levels (yes, I know!) and A levels but got a university place because of 'extenuating circumstances'.  I got a spectacularly good degree then did two Masters degrees.   I am now unemployed.....but I have a lot of time to go sailing....)
the same, but different...

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Originally posted by craiggo

. To be honest the loan system is probably the fairest system assuming that university educations are reserved for the academically elite, who would then be guarenteed a job however with so many students at uni, there just arnt jobs for them and therefore massive debts have been run up with no chance of paying them off.

Just caught up with this any couldn't let this one go by!

The loan system isn't the fairest system at all.  The system was introduced as as I started uni and I am still paying off the debt!  I think generally the loans take between 5-10 years to pay off if you make payments via your employer.

My issue with the loans system is that I have gone to uni, hopefully landed a higher paid job than I would have done without my degree.  I therefore pay a higher rate of tax, which would have easily paid off any grants.  Its not easy having to carry this through a period in your life when people are trying to buy houses, get married, start families etc.

In my opinion, uni degrees are being handed out like confetti and it dums down true academics.  GCSE PE sounds great, but what will it get you at the end?  Not that its a problem - GCSE's are just a stepping stone to AS and A levels, which are arguably more important.

Good luck to you - if you can blag sailing into your schooling then fair play.  Wish I could have!

 

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote getafix Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Oct 08 at 11:56am

Bill Gates recently gave a speech at a high school about the 11 things they will not learn in school. He talks about how feel-good, politically correct teachings created a generation of kids with no concept of reality and how this concept set them up for failure in the real world.

 

1 – Life is not fair – get used to it.

 

2 – The world does not care about your self esteem. The world will expect you to accomplish something BEFORE you feel good about yourself.

 

3 – You will not make $60,000 a year right out of high school. You wont be vice president with a car phone until you earn both.

 

4 – If you think your teacher is tough wait till you get a boss.

 

5 – Flipping burgers is not beneath your dignity. Your grand parents had a different word for burger flipping – they called it opportunity.

 

6 – If you mess up its not your parents fault, so do not whine about your mistakes, learn from them.

 

7 – Your parents were not this boring before you were born. They got that way from paying your bills, cleaning your clothes and listening to you talk about how cool you think you are. So before you save the rainforest from the parasites of your parents generation, try delousing the closet in your own room.

 

8 – Your school may have done away with winners and losers, but life has not. In some schools they have abolished failing grades and they will give you as many chances as you want to get the right answer. This doesn’t bare the slightest resemblance to anything in real life.

 

9 – Life is not divided into semesters. You don’t get summers off and very few employers are interested in helping you find yourself. Do that in your own time.

 

10 – Television is not real life. In real life people actually have to leave the coffee shop and go to jobs.

 

11 – Be nice to nerds. Chances are you will be working for one.

 

Having money means you can say what you want when you want. Am I right or what!?



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Post Options Post Options   Quote craiggo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Oct 08 at 11:33am
Not sure about the totem pole so probably at the Bradford Barrel. At 4am in the morning at the Barrel I was still in the curry house opposite the uni, challenging the Liverpool & Manchester squads to a Vindaloo eating competition.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote craiggo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Oct 08 at 9:10am
I agree with bert to.

James were you part of the Durham team who got shot at with air rifles when you came to visit us at Salford ?

Those were the days heh!
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Something in the regoin of 70% of all students who leave uni with a degree work in jobs that have NOTHING to do with the subjects the degree was in.

All the degree show`s an employer is that you have the determination to complete a task,

Will that`s what it show`s me anyway & that is worth alot in today`s work place.

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