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timeintheboat 
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 Topic: Tough - I thinkPosted: 10 Feb 08 at 5:14pm |
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Light winds, sailing off wind in clear air direct to the next mark. The boat a bit in front of me head up and starts doing some turns for an earlier infringement. They come out of the turns and carry on sailing but now I'm sailing right in their wind shadow and and am stuffed and have to thing about clearing my air.
I can't think that they have broken any rules (good to see people doing their turns).and after all this was club racing - but at a higher level would this have been a possibility for the dreaded redress or is this just tough? |
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radixon
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Posted: 10 Feb 08 at 5:15pm |
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Windward boat rule? Start pointing up, then see if you can point higher than them?
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timeintheboat
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Posted: 10 Feb 08 at 5:38pm |
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No it was one of those straight line procession reaches - maximise boat speed to be ready for the next leg (run). The offending boat had (correctly) got out of the way of the straight line course to the mark by heading up to do their turns. They were a just faster boat than me I ended up in their wind shadow after their turns - which benefited the boats behind me as I was stuffed. Very light winds today.
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Like some other things - sailing is more enjoyable when you do it with someone else
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Ross
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Posted: 10 Feb 08 at 5:50pm |
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As far as I know you have to wait until there is no chance of the person hitting someone or get in there way. That is while you’re doing your turns though, I don't know about traveling off the "course" to do them. There is no where that states you have to do your turns strait away. He should have waited for a more appropriate time and kept on sailing for the time being. That way he wouldn't have forced you upwind and he would have not lost as much distance.
EDIT: On re-reading your post, this has very little or no relevance to your question.
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Contender443
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Posted: 11 Feb 08 at 6:13am |
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I think it is just tough - not a lot you can do about it.
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Scooby_simon
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Posted: 11 Feb 08 at 12:17pm |
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you might be able to argue that if you were effected WHILE THEY were doing their turns that they were in the wrong (and so sould have saield below the rhum line and done the turns).
But as you say they had completed the turn(s) and you were now in their shadow then you've probabably not got a leg to stand on.
When was the infrigemnet that they were doing turns for? had they started the turn <cannot remember the wording in the rule book> quickly enough? |
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NeilP
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Posted: 11 Feb 08 at 3:09pm |
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The only obligation while doing turns is to keep clear. No need to consider your wind shadow after - or during - the turns. After all, even while doing turns, he's still racing just like you. No recourse to the rules, I'm afraid. Provided you didn't have to alter course to avoid a collision, he's bomb proof.
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Calum_Reid
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Posted: 12 Feb 08 at 12:06am |
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yeah only thing they have to do is sail clear of other boats i.e keep clear while they carry out the turn(s)
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ratface
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Posted: 12 Feb 08 at 3:20pm |
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while doing turns you have no rights and have to keep clear of other boats
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Garry
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Oh yes you do. You must sail immediately clear of other boats and do your turns rule 44.2 says "...by promptly making two tacks and two gubes..." Sorry but this was just bad luck Edited by Garry |
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