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    Posted: 19 Sep 07 at 4:45pm

Im sure many people are thinking like me. I really want to sail a 49er in the future but im not sure what path to take. What boat should i get. I was thinking of a RS600 but i much prefer crewing. Im 65kg and the other person will vary between the same as me and a heavy lump of a dad!!!!!!!!!  I sail in a lake and there is around f3 to f4 wind all the time. I would like a boat that goes well in light wind so i can practise alot. And that singles out the 29er.

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Get a 49er and get on with it!

There would be alot of good ones for sale cheap now alot of nations are selecting there Olympians.

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I think it would be a little fast for my lake. Would a 29erxx be a good training boat in terms of skill required. Think their a little slower

And do you know if you can get a second hand xx

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i think your overestimating a 49er yeah their hard but if you handle a 600 you can handle a 49er. Infact if you can sail a 29er well then moving straight into a 49er is the most obvious step up ( for me anyways).

you could a get a 29erxx but youll be overweight ( if your the right weight for a 49er that is) plus there pretty damn expensive at the mo cos their pretty new boats.

49er arent good club boats because of the team work needed to sail them try looking a rs 800 mate they seem to fit the bill more for you.
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if your puddle is too small for a 49er, where do you intend to sail it?

if i was desperate to sail a 49er i would get my 600 sorted out then bully someone into crewing for me. then when they are nearly competent give them the waggle stick. this is just me musing, i have no idea if this would work (watching pinky sail at hill head whenever he's here really makes me want to go for a play).

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Well i planned to sail one quite a bit later when i go to uni and hopefully there will be a big lake. But at the mo i want a training boat.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Ross Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Sep 07 at 7:11pm
I doubt it. I suppose a twin wire Cherub would teach you the skills needed . A boat test was done against the 29erxx and an 05' rules Cherub (Atum bom).  Neither of the boats were thought better, but the the general consensuses was that the Cherub was quicker and the XX was easier to sail, first off.

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Cherub,
Spice,
Boss,
laser 5000.

They're the ones that jump to mind first. Where do you sail? How big is the sailing area?

Why so keen on the 49er?  How far do you want to take your sailing? Campaign  around Europe? Club racing? Open meetings?


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Post Options Post Options   Quote craiggo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Sep 07 at 7:25pm
If you can sail an RS600 the 49er is a piece of cake until it gets really breezy assuming your crew is as good as you !

As mentioned though you really do need to think about where you sail, as leeward shores or confined launching/retrieving areas can cost you a few pennies in damage. Taking the main down on the water and neatly rolling it is fiddly and pretty difficult.

If you prefer crewing then crew any assymetric with at least the crew trapezing, even crewing an ISO would help with the skills you'll need.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote andy_cherub Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Sep 07 at 3:05pm

I would say a new rules cherub, or if your feeling energetic, a 12ft skiff. 800 would be the obvious bet for your position, and in terms of uni - dont go to a uni which sails on a pond!! I recomend Plymouth, just fantastic sailing!!!

Plus if you want a 49er to train, olympic stuff get your check book out! with these new rules for masts, sails etc - there are mutterings of the older non CNC made boats not being alowed to race with the new hard chinned CNC boats!! may not be true, im no longer in the class, but one to consider. Is the 49er going down the 470 kinda line, yes.

For shear fun 24/7 and the best sailing of your life, you really cant beat a twin wire 12ft boat weighing under 50kg!!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sailing Tinker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Sep 07 at 4:52pm

In the end my main aim is for 2012. bit of a personal everest, but hey why not. And the 49er is the only one i fancy. The 470 looks a bit boring. But for now i need a boat that i can practise in for a:

small lake

under £1500 e.g(rs600, contender)secondhand

and works!!!!!

 

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