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Skiffe ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jun 05 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 220 |
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In the US there is something thats called a modern moth, looks like a europe and has been fitted with a kite. |
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aardvark_issues ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jul 05 Location: Weston-Super-Mare Online Status: Offline Posts: 505 |
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Unlikely that it needs it really, when they can match 49er's downwind without one... |
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Paramedic ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 929 |
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Yes, absolutely the Olympics is about sailing boats that sail quickly and about the best sailor in his peak physical condition winning. At the moment, as far as singlehanders go, the Laser and the Finn seem the best boats for the job in that they are all the same,carry a variety of crew weights and are not all that easy to sail to their best. Hydrofoils definatly are worthwhile and have their place, i'm just not sure that the Olympics is it just yet.
Agreed, but the x,000,000 people who do watch running, jumping etc are those that the BBC are interested in. I don't think that people who don't sail would find foiling boats any more interesting than conventional ones. Better commentry is the main issue that needs adressing IMO, but people have got to want to watch it. Edited by Paramedic |
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Philsy ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 344 |
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Has anyone fitted a foiling Moth (or similar) with a gennaker? That would be
fun. Or would you end up kite surfing? ![]() |
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Philsy ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 344 |
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[QUOTE=Paramedic]
I don't see how sailing a boat on hydrofoils will be
At least with the Finn and Laser you get closer, more tactical racing which
Racing a boat that sails that quickly is an acheivement, but a very differant
QUOTE] I've never seen any excitement in watching people running on TV. The 100m sprint is like a premature ejectulation. Surely foiling Moths would make better TV? |
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Chris 249 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2041 |
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One of the top Mothies came cruising through our fleet last season.
With 50+ boards and boats on a little inlet, it seems that almost no
one noticed the Moth foiling along. I expected everyone to be talking
about it while unrigging, but the overwhelming reaction (even from the
fleets he sailed through) was that people just didn't see it. The same
thing happened to some extent at Geelong when Rohan Veal was sailing.
It's undoubtably cool to look at and people watch with fascination once they have noticed, but perhaps it's not necessarily eye-catching to the casual observer. The sailor was loving it; he said it was as much fun as the first time he planed, and (like others) he said they are if anything more tactical now as they lose less speed while tacking. Exactly how tactical pre-foil Moths were is of course a separate question. The Moth also seems to suffer from the same problem as modern windsurfers. The monofilm sail looks interesting but it's less eye-catching. Most of the windsurfers you see in ads and other graphic designs are '80s versions because then they had colourful mylar sails, and art directors just love colour and always prefer it to action. It's something people have commented on and ISAF demanded colourful sails for the new Olympic board but like most things, it didn't deliver. At least one of Rohan's boats looked the goods, though, with the whole hull covered by a very cool sticker. Para, surely Olympics should be about both "racing boats that sail quickly" and about racing other boats quickly? They may be quite different skills (and the latter is more popular) but surely both are worthwhile. |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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> At least with the Finn and Laser you get closer, more
tactical racing Suggest you go and see some foiler Moths racing... Its quiote enthralling with close guys (and at the 5 rings they always will be close) because there are so many choices of hight and speed: diffoicult to nail a cover on and keepi t, none of this lead off the start and cover to the finish stuff, you've got to be going for it right round the track |
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Paramedic ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 929 |
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I don't see how sailing a boat on hydrofoils will be any more interesting to a non sailing TV viewer than watching a Finn or Laser. Once you've seen a boat sail very quickly and on foils you've see them all, can we have some running please? At least with the Finn and Laser you get closer, more tactical racing which will hold the interest of those of us that do sail. Racing a boat that sails that quickly is an acheivement, but a very differant acheivement that the ones that the Olympics are intended to reward. |
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probably because the phrase "easier to rig and sail than a boat which is harder to rig and sail" didn't sound too promising...
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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I inagine something went pearshaped in the copy and the compare was meant to be any other high performance boat or those lines. |
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