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AshleyTaylor 
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 Topic: Tasar crew weightPosted: 12 Sep 13 at 8:45am |
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At a combined weight of 105kg do you think my daughter and I will be able to competitively sail a Tasar?
We are competent sailors and currently race a Laser 2000 but quickly become over powered.
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andymck
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Posted: 12 Sep 13 at 9:03am |
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What sort of water?
What is your budget? |
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AshleyTaylor
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Posted: 12 Sep 13 at 9:10am |
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Tidal sea (Broadstairs, Kent)
£1800
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catmandoo
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Posted: 12 Sep 13 at 11:22am |
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remember too that tasar have a minimum crew weight for racing .
from class rules : C.6 Crew Weight C.6.1 The TASAR, while racing in all sanctioned events, shall carry a minimum total crew weight of 130 kg. The crew shall be dressed in shirts and shorts, swim-wear or the equivalent, without shoes, all dry, at weight-in. C.6.2 In the event that the weight of the crew, thus weighed, shall be less than 130 kg, such crew may race the TASAR, provided that, throughout the event, ballast equal in weight to at least the difference between the crew weight and 130 kg is carried secured in the cockpit. The ballast carried need not exceed 12 kg. C.6.3 At sanctioned events, the Race Committee shall weigh and record the weight of each crew. C.6.4 Each crew shall ensure they maintain a minimum weight of 130 kg at all times when racing. As you only weigh 105kgs you do not fit this requirement unfortunately , so its eat the pies not quiet sure what "The ballast carried need not exceed 12 kg." means or fits in , but C6.4 says you must maintain min130 Kgs
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AshleyTaylor
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Posted: 12 Sep 13 at 11:32am |
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That rule won't be applied for club handicap racing but I'm wondering if we'll have enough lard to keep it flat in more than 10 knots of breeze.
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catmandoo
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Posted: 12 Sep 13 at 11:37am |
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im afraid it does , handicap (py) for a taser will be based on this min crew weight , guess you would fess up to being 25 kgs underweight (nearly half the hull weight of a competitive tasar ) and have your handicap adjusted accordingly .
Like lightweights in weight equalised boats like L4000s do when they race out of class without weights , or heavy weights extending their racks full out ;) as for keeping flat in 10 knots upwind , challenging at 105kgs all up . Yup i had a tasar
Edited by catmandoo - 12 Sep 13 at 11:39am |
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ChrisJ
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Posted: 12 Sep 13 at 11:53am |
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Current 2000 National Champion weighs in at around 19 to 20 stone for helm + crew.
Others sailing the boat find 22-24 stone ideal. Others find they are still competitive (but they didn't win!!) at 26-27 stone. 16.5 stone this year could easily be 18.5 stone next year... which is not much lighter. |
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AshleyTaylor
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Posted: 12 Sep 13 at 12:04pm |
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We're a few years off reaching 18 stone. The 2000 weighs a ton dragging across the beach. I'm considering a Tasar because they are so light so I don't want to add weights. I don't mind altering the PN but if we're too light to handle it then maybe I'm looking at the wrong boat.
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JimC
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Posted: 12 Sep 13 at 12:40pm |
Well, look at it this way: is it likely that Bethwaite and the class introduced the minimum weight rule because they though sailing the boat with less than 130kg was going to be slow? The story behind this in is the first Bethwaite book, High Performance sailing. You'd have to work hard on boat setup depowering upwind, but you'd fly down the reaches. |
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RS400atC
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Posted: 12 Sep 13 at 12:50pm |
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How about a National 12?
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