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    Posted: 03 Oct 05 at 2:24pm
Isn't it about time a mainstream builder bought out a sucessor to the ISO or Buzz? The French actually consider these along with the Spice to be cutting edge, which I suppose they are after a 420/470. There's a real gap in the market for the right craft that has the ability to carry a variety of weight combinations. Not everyone wants to trapeze helm, but there's little current choice if you want to carry 26st (that's two up by the way).
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Originally posted by Shingle

Isn't it about time a mainstream builder bought out a sucessor to the ISO or Buzz?.


Isn't that supposed to be the 4 Tonner?

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OK if you've the skeletal system of bird. The majority of twin hand assymetric craft these days punish two guys of normal proportions, unless it's really honking. Even the 4000 is becoming dated.
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That's always the problem of the renewal of the series.

Here in France we have missed the apparition of new boats for many reason but mostly because you can hesitate between a topper or a RS boat which is more than 5000 £ and a 470 or a 505 you can find at 1000 £ around the corner.

That maybe the reason why the spice is cutting edge (thank you for the franch bu I try to make people change . )

In the opposite if you produce new series all the time and abandon old ones it's not worthy to by a 7000 £ boat to forget it 2 years later.

That's obviously true that there is no RS 500 for example who could be an RS 400 with single trapeze.

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Originally posted by guytoon

That's obviously true that there is no RS 500 for example who could be an RS 400 with single trapeze.

I've always thought there was a massive gap in the RS stable, as realisitcally the only people who sail the 800 in the single wire mode are sailing holiday centres!  I'm sure they will have something waiting in the wings...

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I personaly have exactly the oposite opinion.

Why push for new classes? chances are they will do exactly the same job as the current buzz etc but as the fashon is moved on it will leave a lot of people out of pocket and go a long way towards distroying sailing in this country. Any SMOD has a short lifetime but why kick it out the door before its time simply to replace it with an identical boat under a different badge?

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Originally posted by Shingle

The majority of twin hand assymetric craft these days punish two guys of normal proportions.

Answer: find a sailing girl-friend. 

 

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The RS500 has been rumoured about - a single wire boat would fit the progression in their naming scheme ...

But perhaps they are choosing to focus their attentions on the classes that they have rather than pop another one out ... or perhaps they are more interested in mass market boats like the Feva & Vision.

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Originally posted by turnturtle

Dangerous ground there.... sailing girls are for fun only!

That remark may come back to haunt you!

Actually the Merlin fleet have the right idea. Lots of sailing couples - who generally sail in different boats. Therefore helms and crews can have the usual free and frank exchanges of views (*) on the water without it impinging on Real Life.

(*) My all time favourite being a crew - normally the most laid-back of guys - standing on the board of a capsized Merlin screaming at the helm "For *****-***** grow up!" loudly enough for the entire fleet to hear.  



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Originally posted by Isis

Any SMOD has a short lifetime but why kick it out the door before its time simply to replace it with an identical boat under a different badge?

Like the Laser I suppose ... a good SMOD can last a long time ...

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