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    Posted: 25 Jun 07 at 10:21pm
Sounds like the 4.7 is perfect for you. The class is well supported by the RYA and the Nationals this year will be held in Weymouth (along with the other rigs) from 11-18 August. Perhaps next year you could move into the Radial...
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Im about 50 - 55 kgs probably nearer to 55 with gear. Also they way i think i will do it is buy a standard and buy the rig i want as it is easier than waiting. I need it within the next 3 weeks so how long will it take for laser to deliver the rig approx?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jon Emmett Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jun 07 at 6:00pm

Despite looking a big odd the 4.7 is a great little boat. I was coaching about a dozen of them at the weekend and they are perfect for the sailors under 60Kgs and make an ideal stepping stone to the Radial as they can get used to the Laser techniques a year early.

 

Suggested weights for people wanting to race:

 

4.7 45 - 60 Kgs

Radial 55-75Kgs

Standard 70-85 Kgs

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Post Options Post Options   Quote mike ellis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jun 07 at 2:16pm
only trouble with the XD kit is how quickly it stretches sails/bends top sections.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Hector Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jun 07 at 1:34pm

I sailed a Laser at the weekend for the first time in nearly 10 years. Loved it.

I've always thought it to be a great boat, and now with the XD kit it's simply superb. I'd forgotten how quickly and easily it tacks and gybes, and more important how it gives the helm instant feel / feedback after every move.  It seems to me that the Laser 'knockers' on this forum just don't appreciate the brilliance of a  decades old design that's deceptively simple, responsive, and that is both easy to sail yet challenging to sail fast.

I agree the 4.7 is just too small for the boat - if you can't handle a Radial think about a Topper or similar until you're a bit bigger/stronger.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote mike ellis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jun 07 at 12:26pm
ah, so thats why with my radial i can now get the cringle about a centimetre bellow the gooseneck
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Mike,

Laser sailors dont like using cunningham...it stretches their little sails too much .

Thats the one thing I love when instructing and demonstrating sail controls....watching their face when I pull the cunningham full on (so you see the 4th corner drop away).

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Post Options Post Options   Quote mike ellis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jun 07 at 11:23am
the 4.7 is a great rig in a blow, i was on safety boat wednesday night when there was quite a bit of breeze watching a 4.7 beat a full rig, upwind downwind and on the reaches. and it wasnt as if the full rig sailor was a slouch either, he's the one who normally has the biggest haul on presentation evening. the 4.7 goes qicker upwind because the boat is flatter, and there is more power in t rig. Having said that i would still rather sail the radial than 4.7 just because the bigger sail is more fun reaching and running, just kill it with the downhaul upwind, and the same for the full rig.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Fraggle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jun 07 at 9:26am

One thing you haven't said is how heavy you are?  Are you big enough for the radial?

I've been sailing radial years and love them.  Nothing wrong with the 4.7 rig so if you are much under 60kg go for that or you'll be overpowered a lot of the time.  You might be lucky and find a boat with both rigs so when you get bigger you have the rig already.

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