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    Posted: 20 May 07 at 3:55pm

Originally posted by nathan

I don't know any sailors who just race at class events and don't belong to a club.

I know quite a few and I did so myself for several years.

 
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With out stating the obvious it tends to be just club sailors who sail at clubs! I can not remember the last time I did a club race and most full time sailors are the same...
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Originally posted by Jon Emmett

With out stating the obvious it tends to be just club sailors who sail at clubs! I can not remember the last time I did a club race and most full time sailors are the same...


I do both now...

Though admittedly for the past few years in the Toppers I rarely/never did club races.

...but I'm by no stretch of the imagination professional ;)
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I generally only do opens. I have a nice warm garage to store the boat in and
i'm not interested in club racing, and so have no real need to be a member
of a club.On the occasions I want to just go for a sail there are lots of places
where I can pay a day fee.

I have seen sailing clubs where you can join for 20 or 30 quid, but it seems a
bit mercinary to join a club just because their fees are low and not put
anything else into it, besides I do alot for my class association and no-one
seems to mind when I turn up at events that I'm not a member of a club.
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Is it not possible that those who put LDC or the like as their entry club are also members of another club or the RYA and simply put it down as they were representing LDC in a boat sponsored or owned by LDC? It is also good advertizing, especially as we are giving it air time here!

I know several people who are members of the RYA and put it down on the entry form. As with any rule (like hitting a mark when no one else sees you - do you do your turn?) entry requirements are pretty much self policing. RYA membership is pretty cheap, though!
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FWIW and as far as I recall...

Most classes I have sailed in insist that you are a member of the CA unless you are sailing in your home clubs open meeting. As already pointed out in an earlier post the RRS state that you need to be 'a member of the ISAF or a member of a body affiliated with the ISAF'.

Basically if you want to do open join the RYA it really is not that expensive when you take in to account the other costs of doing an open circuit each year. If you want to club race then join a club.

It is hardly rocket science....

On a comparison bases I used to race Karts. The equipment buy in costs were approximately the same however after that you had:

1) A medical every other year @£100
2) Membership of a club @£50/year
3) Race weekend entry fees (even at your home club) @£28/meeting
4) Practice day before race day @£28/day
5) RAC MSA License @£30/year

When you think that most clubs race just 1 weekend a month tot it all up and you have a very expensive hobby!

Personally I have found sailing much more rewarding and much easier on my pocket over the years....

Just my 2p as always....

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You can always join the scuttlebutt sailing club and become an international entrant

http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/ssc/
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Originally posted by Norbert

You can always join the scuttlebutt sailing club and become an international entrant

http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/ssc/

A neat solution to the problem.
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At the end of the day, it's clubs that run most of your opens. That wouldn't happen if everyone just sailed opens and didn't belong to a club.

And it isn't a question of just paying clubs to do it. Many clubs charge a nominal fee for opens and their members who do the duties have the right to expect that other clubs will reciprocate when they do an open.

Begrudging the small membership that a lot of clubs charge sounds somewhat parasitic to me. [ducks]
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When I was running a fairly heavy keelboat programme, I was spending at least £500 a year on regatta entry fees and if you think there is a club around here charging less than £100 a year for adult membership, think again. Whether these could be called "small" or "nominal" is a matter of opinion.
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