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Chris 249 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2041 |
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What was the spin from the Womens' Skiff Selection trials, about the relative
performance of the GT60 and the Daemon? Any reliable info? |
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m_liddell ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 583 |
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You are a brave for starting this thread given the huge involement by the cherub commitee in the Daemon
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Granite ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 May 04 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 476 |
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Just wait till the end of July and see how they get on at the Nationals. Racing is the only proper way of testing them. |
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If it doesn't break it's too heavy; if it does it wasn't built right
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timnoyce ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Aug 04 Location: Hampshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
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That's not a very fair test at all! The GT60 will have Dave and Andy in it (very good sailors), the Daemon will have ME in it!
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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However Atum Bom is not so very different to the Daemon. I'm sure Proctor(?)/Hyde aren't about to claim that the rig they've designed for the Daemon is inferior to the Lee's C-Tech/Fyfe rig.
But actually I agree, racing isn't that great a test. How do you know whether X won because of their boat speed or in spite of their lack of it. 10% speed difference between crews is normal, 10% difference boatspeed would be amazing. After the second set of trials comparison of race results between the two boats with crews swapping over would be very interesting. My lightly informed guess would have the Bieker shape better in the light and more survivable in extreme conditions, and the Roberts shape faster in moderate, and faster but a tad more difficult to handle at the top ends of the wind range. But who knows? |
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olly_love ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 18 Jan 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1145 |
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is the rig still in one piece after it fell the other day at weston. i wish we could have set up a drag race on sat between the new and old cherubs and 14s. would havew been interesting especially with the quality( or lack in my case) of sailors there
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hollandsd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 853 |
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Suprisingly yes, the rig is intact. I was at the helm when it came down. Its quite a sight seeing tim noyce flying. It was not a pleasant experience with the rig, but the Daemons are certainly very quick, and definitely a great blast
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I luv Wight ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Jan 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 628 |
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What broke?
Not the U-bolt that supports the shrouds AND the lowers by any chance? |
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hollandsd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 853 |
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No, the shroud wire pulled out of the crimp at the fitting where it attacthes to the bolt plate. When the mast flexed away, it snapped the pin holding the lowers in then the mast came down.
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timnoyce ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Aug 04 Location: Hampshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
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I think you'll find that they actually go to different points now Andy on the sound advice of someone at the Dinghy show... can't think who that was now... |
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