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Iain C ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1113 |
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Ignore this advice! Whoever posted this was a complete divvy of the highest magnitude (and a tight git) Er, so that will be me then. After 3 years of cheapo trouble free sailing the trap snapped on the knot when I was going mach 9 with my foot in the toeloop. Cue instant capsize and me dangling over the hull of the boat by my foot, not funny. Somehow I got out without hurting my foot too badly, however I snapped a carbon stick the second it happened. I got some groovy hertzog style stuff from P&B, and the best bit is...it's YELLOW!! |
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49erGBR735HSC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
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Holt Pro line is the direct equivalent of Herzog, think Holt has just given it a brand name. Comes in 2.5mm and 3.5mm, there is also Ultra-line (I think that's the name) comes in 3mm with a similar breaking load to the 3.5mm stuff, but slightly more expensive per metre. As Rick says the advantages over wire are quite high, able to adjust the splices plus is lighter and easy to replace. I'd be quite interested to compare the cost of wire to pro-line, the rope at 2.5mm costing about £1 a metre and the 3.5 stuff £1.80 per metre.
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29er397 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Feb 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 505 |
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i used 2.5mm holt vectran stuff on my 600. I havn't had any issues so far (half a season). I'd make the splices a generous length at each end, that way if you spot any points that are wearing a bit, you can just move the entire rope up or down a bit and there will be a fresh bit of rope where the wear point is - an extra meter either end is a lot cheaper than an entriely new bit of rope, seems to work for me. On the windage side of things, would there really be much difference between a 2mm bit of wire and a 3mm bit of rope? aren't most shreouds 3mm anyway? can't remember how big the 600 ones are. Cheers |
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redback ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: Tunbridge Wells Online Status: Offline Posts: 1502 |
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Now there's a disadvantage of rope. The trapeze wire/rope are a significant windage especially as the leeward unused ones are laying along the surface of the mainsail. I'd say 2mm wire would be much less windage than 3mm rope.
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Andrewst ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 14 Aug 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 129 |
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I am looking to replace my trapeze lines with rope. Would you recommend D12, V12 or Excel Vectran The D12 and V12 allow an adjustable splice What diameter would you recommend I am thinking or 3mm!
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Not really ... as far as I am concerned the advantages have been detailed above. If you don't really feel that is enough just stay with wire. Rick |
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Matt Jackson ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Sep 04 Location: Darlington Online Status: Offline Posts: 962 |
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Bit of a flip answer there Rick. I'm genuinely interested as my wires have a few kinks and I will be replacing them in the next few months.
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Stay with wire then ... |
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Matt Jackson ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Sep 04 Location: Darlington Online Status: Offline Posts: 962 |
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OK. So if I don't buy into the theory that they are advantages... what else?
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YES ... the fact that you can slide the splice up and down to adjust the length for the conditions so you have less adjuster rope hanging from the cleat. Plus of course the debated saftey issue. Rick |
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