Symmetric doublehander for lightish crew

   Hi again,
Ive decided to stick to what im used to and stick to symmetric boats. Id like something faster than a 420 and a trap would be nice  
So we weigh about 19 stone, have symmetric experience, sail on a smallish lake about 85 acres and would like something thats a good all rounder. We already sail in handicap so thats no problem. Also GRP or similar would be great.
Thanks in advance  

Edited by sailor_420

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sailor_420 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Posting king Joined: 19 Apr 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 155	Post Options Post Reply Quote sailor_420 Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Symmetric doublehander for lightish crew Posted: 07 May 07 at 7:14pm
	Hi again, Ive decided to stick to what im used to and stick to symmetric boats. Id like something faster than a 420 and a trap would be nice So we weigh about 19 stone, have symmetric experience, sail on a smallish lake about 85 acres and would like something thats a good all rounder. We already sail in handicap so thats no problem. Also GRP or similar would be great. Thanks in advance Edited by sailor_420

JimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 07 May 07 at 7:15pm
	The old meatball seems an obvious choice in the UK if the pond is big enough... A Laser 2 would be another possibility. Edited by JimC

sailor_420 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Posting king Joined: 19 Apr 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 155	Post Options Post Reply Quote sailor_420 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 07 May 07 at 7:21pm
	forgot price, about £3000 i think.

jeffers Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048	Post Options Post Reply Quote jeffers Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 07 May 07 at 8:22pm
	Sounds like an early Wide bow Fireball would fit the bill.
	Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74

sailor_420 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Posting king Joined: 19 Apr 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 155	Post Options Post Reply Quote sailor_420 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 07 May 07 at 9:23pm
	They look a handfull, are they? Very narrow aswel

scottish_tornad Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Groupie Joined: 17 Apr 06 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 57	Post Options Post Reply Quote scottish_tornad Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 07 May 07 at 9:34pm
	you will probably find that the furball is more stable than the 420 I loved all three that i had many moons ago they are a brill boat
	tornado GBR389 www.dalgetybaysc.org/home.htm

owain Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 11 Jun 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 142	Post Options Post Reply Quote owain Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 07 May 07 at 10:35pm
	ive been helming my dad's fireball since i was 12. i did the nationals in 2004 and out all up weight was about 18stone and we didnt have many problems. any loss we made upwind, we more than gained on the run!
	Owain H 49er GBR055 Fireball 14291 Plymouth Uni Sailing Club & Chelmarsh Sailing Club

sailor_420 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Posting king Joined: 19 Apr 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 155	Post Options Post Reply Quote sailor_420 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 May 07 at 9:15pm
	Sounds like a good boat but i know very little about them so some basic info would be great. So, how do they perform, how are they in light and strong winds, how easily are they depowered, easy to capsize? and ho much for a newish one (within 10 year) Your help would be greatly appreciated Edited by sailor_420

FireballNeil Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 03 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 654	Post Options Post Reply Quote FireballNeil Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 May 07 at 10:14pm
	You say you would be looking for one built within the last 10years, as long as it's been made by winder boats and hasn't been really really neglected you'll be fine, it's all wooden and fibreglass boats you have to watch out for (I've been through 2 woodys and now have a composite winder- its bomb-proof in comparison) I'm not going to make comments about performance, I'm too biased:D
	Neil

Rupert Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rupert Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 May 07 at 10:27pm
	I'd agree about Furballs, but if you are looking for something with more of the feel of a 420, have a go in a 470 as well before you buy, and as JimC said, the Laser 2. If you fancy something rare, then take a look at the Pegasus and the Marauder (Mirror 14). You'd have enough change from your £3000 to buy another 8 of them!
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