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    Posted: 10 May 07 at 11:05pm
Hey guys, need some advice.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=018&a mp;a mp;sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=280112 636852&rd=1&rd=1

How much would you value it at? Is the rig up to date with modern contender gear? I don't know anything about contender rigging, but from what I have read there seems to be a few different materials and control line set-ups to choose from. Or is it just the mast and boom materials that change? I am slightly confused, to say the least .

How different is the above boat compared to this one (apart from the pro grip)?

http://www.apolloduck.com/image.phtml?id=60340&image=1

A list of what to look for and what to avoid would be great.

Cheers guys,
Ross.


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The problem you had with the Contender (ie out of date advert) is a common one, and one the class needs to address: I spoke to the guy on the stand at the dinghy exhibition and he had heard the same from other people. Basically you look on the site and there are a few good looking boats available, but when you phone them they all sold ages ago! I gave up and bought something else, which is a shame, 'cos I still want one! Two boats is enough though.....
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Agree with others, try them all.

As you are a DI, its good to get experience of boats so get out there. I would steer you towards a Laser, only cos its in your price range and spares are easy to come by.

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Without knowing the fleets where you sail, nor having experience of the other classes you mention, some aspects that steered me towards a Laser recently were things like

Decent fleets in most places

Loads of open meetings around the place

Fast to rig (even with the latest high purchase XD equipment)

Keep 2nd hand value well and easy to sell when changing later

Strict one design means that when you win/lose you are doing that and not you cheque book (at least to a greater extent than some other classes).

Great fun, etc., etc.

I'm sure the other classes have their advantages as well (I just don't know them well enough to make comparisons)

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George - the one with the bluey greeney turquoisey B14. 

I'm a crew for high performance boats.  Currently sailing the 800 on Thursday evenings and B14 at weekends.  The RS800 isn't mine but I'm sailing it with the ex helm of 18ft Skiff Base1 so he knows whats going on!  There is an opening for an ISO crew currently at KGSC if you are boatless for the present time, talk to the guy with the yellow ISO.  I can helm to a point however so if I am short of crew I will find you - as you know I sold my single hander, and I hate Lasers so won't sail the club boats. 

We won't be around this weekend or the next weekend but should be sailing Saturday 19th. 
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I am really looking foward to it. I wish I had come tonight, but prior commitmeants prevented me. Whats you name by the way? Combat Wombat is a bit of a mouth full ! The poking around would be appriciated.

cheers.

 

PS: If you ever need a crew, give me a shout! I can hoist and trim a spinnaker nicely  ....assuming that you helm....



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Ross,

Definitely come along.  I won't be around as its the B14 TT event at Whitstable but the club is superb and very friendly. 

You missed an incredible sail tonight - reckon we had the 800 fully maxed out, made 180 acres seem very small indeed. 

No info on the Contender yet, but I can do a bit of poking around once you join. 
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Originally posted by combat wombat

Ross,

That was my Contender, sorry it went to the first person to see it.  Got more for it than I paid for it, there was so much interest. 

The Solo fleet at KGSC is good but if you want a single hander go with the Laser or Contender.  You may be slightly short for a Contender so a Radial might be a good idea.  If you are around this evening there is racing - think I'm sailing an 800 - if you come join you can take out a club Radial or talk to the other Contender sailors. 

PS there may be another Contender from KGSC coming on the market soon - going cheap probably but no promises. 


I e-mailed Aida Blentic about joining and I was told it would be best to come to the club open day next Saturday, so I will definitely be coming along to that and may well join on the day. Any more info on that Contender that might be up for sale?

I'm leaning towards a Laser as they're everywhere and cheap to pick up second hand. But the Contender can also be had cheaply and there are Contender sailors at King George to race against. It looks like so much fun as well. Tacking and gybing look tricky but these things will come in time.

 

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Alert Alert!!!

We're being over run by Contender sailors!

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I switched to a Contender last September after sailing a Lightning 368 for the last 15 years. I'm 5'9" and weigh 72kg and haven't found it too much of a handful except when it really blows, so don't let your size put you off.


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