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    Posted: 02 May 07 at 12:15am
Originally posted by andy_cherub

Hell yer - even the safety officer of the day called me up as hes the chap who does weymouth speed week, as the big ole rib was havin to put on serious pace to catch us! We already had the kite up, twinin down wind when the wind came though - dead flat water, and just drove it!! well - hangin on for dear life with my back foot looped through the gantry - REALLY hoping not to go down the mine. Honestly ive never been so fast in my life, just felt the hull skimming the water - thats the only way I can descibe it!

Since then ive hit around 27/ 28 knots in my current cherub and hit 26.1 on the last ever run of my cherub before i sold it!

 

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Originally posted by Calum_Reid

cough haha foiler haha cough

I mean that was never fully developed


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That's just a pic of a boat with some moth foils put in for fun/PR stunt ...

If you look there is a huge gap between the daggerboard case and the daggerboard - clearly those foils are not for that hull ...
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Yes, I never got her foiling - I got all the bits done, and just needed to re-do the dagger case. Unfortunately because I spent so long faffing around with all the little bits the nationals was soon upon me and I didnt want to go cutting the boat apart a few weeks before this as well, as at the same time I was putting in a stump for max height and new rules rig!! Then I started looking at getting a 12ft skiff, so I just put the entire project on a back burner. I took the photo and showed one or two people of what a foiler cherub would look like, then before I knew it, it was in Y&Y. DSM etc etc etc!! It wasnt a PR stunt - just a pic to see what itll look like once its done!

You never know - there may be a fully foiling 12ft skiff one day......... but I dont think ill try it just yet! Think itll take all the fun out of pounding down the waves!
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Originally posted by andy_cherub

... then before I knew it, it was in Y&Y. DSM etc etc etc!! It wasnt a PR stunt - just a pic to see what itll look like once its done!

 yeah ... nice bit of PR, someone sent it to the media ...

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... meanwhile on topic...

I see hydroptere has given up short distance speed records for now and is leaving the all comers 500m to Finnian Maynard.  Off to tick off some cross channel records.

Will it not do 50knots then?  Or is the windy season over?

... meanwhile off topic

GPS'd our 40HP rib on Sat.   A mere 23.8knts flat out.  Andy's 28knts is VERY fast.  50knts is hard to believe.
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Originally posted by andy_cherub

Hell yer - even the safety officer of the day
called me up as hes the chap who does weymouth speed week, as the big
ole rib was havin to put on serious pace to catch us! We already had the
kite up, twinin down wind when the wind came though - dead flat water,
and just drove it!! well - hangin on for dear life with my back foot looped
through the gantry - REALLY hoping not to go down the mine. Honestly
ive never been so fast in my life, just felt the hull skimming the water -
thats the only way I can descibe it!


Since then ive hit around 27/ 28 knots in my current cherub and hit
26.1 on the last ever run of my cherub before i sold it!



31+ would put you within 3 knots of the fastest speed recorded in an 18
Foot Skiff. That was in Entrad, pictured in Bethwaite, in a big big westerly.
I think the hull weighed 67kg or something; she had 22' wings, and 3 or
4 rigs so the small sails were designed for high windspeeds which makes
a big difference. She was sailed by a multiple world champ, former
Australia II crew, who sailed her for a living.

31+ puts you at the same speed that one of the fastest of the 900
windsurfers in GPS Windsurfing's world rankings recorded as his top
speed on his FW
board.

It puts you knots faster than a multi world champ has recorded in 12 Foot
Skiffs, 18 Foot Skiffs or 49ers......knots faster than a foiler Moth.....knots
faster than any Tornado, I think.

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Hi Chris,

I know - it was mental!!! & I have never come close to that speed again - although I do try! The main advantage was the boat - It was designed for strong winds, I never started to pick up speed unless it wa blowing over a F4. It had a flat kite, and we were already twining with the kite up when the squall came through! & yes, we did brown ourselves! & windsurfers have got 48 knots - so not that hard to believe that a windsurfer can 'easily' hit say 35 knots.

12's & cherubs tend to reach around 25 ish knots in the strong stuff (must remember, out in OZ the waves are huuge - so as you get speed on you leap out the water, if you have dead falt water your gona go faster! Moths top out about the same speed which is mainly due to the foils (Im currently looking at designing supercaviting moth foils for my disseratation). So I could be wrong on that front.
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I don't know that there are very many really well documented speeds for Cherubs and 12s around 25... One of the things everyone is learning is how unreliable GPS and other peak speeds are. The Moths are now doing analysis of GPS plots to get sustained speeds, and the top speeds they claim have droppped significantly.

With so many people carrying GPS with recording facilities these days hopefully we'll start getting some really reliable performance figures. I just wish Alex' GPS had been recording the day we took Halo down Kielder water in 35knots.
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