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    Posted: 23 Apr 07 at 9:13am
Originally posted by Medway Maniac

People causing distress or suffering to other creatures for sport deserve all they get.

And I've found that towing around 30 metres of fishing line and a hook after an 'incident' doesn't slow you down as much as you might expect . Can wear a groove in the front of your board though...



My father fishes a lot, he keeps clear of sailing areas, but would expect sailors to keep an eye out for him too. I don't agree with your first comment Medway, I find the fish he catches extremly good for my lunch.
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I have sailed at many clubs where sailors have to stay a certain distance from the bank where there are fishermen. What seems odd is that the fishermen don't seem to have the similar rule where they have to fish within the same area. On the river I've hit lines which were stretched right across from one bank to the other, giving no room for canoes to get through, let alone sailing dinghies. And then they get annoyed when you run into it. I've often wondered about the general IQ level of fishermen, but then to want to do a "sport" which involves sticking a metal hook into an animal's mouth suggests a very selfish attitude to life anyway.

Having said all that, most of the fishermen at Whitefriars are pretty good about where they fish, generally using the areas less disturbed by boats, where I would guess there are more fish anyway. Have to agree with the comment about the amount of rubbish left behind, though.

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Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by Stefan Lloyd

whereas legally, sailors don't have the right to wilfully destroy other people's property.


Exactly so. Some of the attitudes here appall me. Now imagine instead of throwing the odd clod of earth our fisherman record sail numbers and call the Police: in fact worse still imagine one of them is a policeman. The Police turn up at the club with allegations of criminal damage. And also consider Rule 69.1 "Action by a Protest Committee"
(a) When a protest committee, from its own observation or a report received from any source, believes that a competitor may have committed a gross breach of a rule, good manners or sportsmanship,
or may have brought the sport into disrepute, it may call a hearing.


I think your day has suddenly gone downhill. If you won't respect other people's hobbies What should they respect yours?

 

I think the point has been missed here Jim, He didn't do it on purpose.  It is very hard to judge how far a fisherman casts out especially with the tide taking his line as well.  Throwing Things such as lead and stones etc is VERY DANGEROUS what happens if you get knocked out and drown!!!! Or even worse they damage your boat!   Having said that I don’t agree with people antagonising the fisherman, leave them alone they have just as much right to be there as us, also anyone that chucks stones at your boat is just as likely to come back at night and bash the Fu£k out of it!!

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Originally posted by MRJP BUZZ 585

Originally posted by lozza

Originally posted by Medway Maniac

People causing distress or suffering to other creatures for sport deserve all they get.





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When I was about fourteen, I was in a Mirror on Draycote Water, being chased by 2 men in a fishing boat.  They were shouting to us that they were going to kill us!  This was quite good fun for a while, until the wind started to drop, so we headed in as quick as we could.  The fisherman came in after us and moored on the safety boat pontoon, and came looking for us.  We went straight to the club secretary who was a large, formidable, Scots woman, who scared the two men away and saved us from certain death!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote JimC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Apr 07 at 6:51am
Originally posted by Stefan Lloyd

whereas legally, sailors don't have the right to wilfully destroy other people's property.


Exactly so. Some of the attitudes here appall me. Now imagine instead of throwing the odd clod of earth our fisherman record sail numbers and call the Police: in fact worse still imagine one of them is a policeman. The Police turn up at the club with allegations of criminal damage. And also consider Rule 69.1 "Action by a Protest Committee"
(a) When a protest committee, from its own observation or a report received from any source, believes that a competitor may have committed a gross breach of a rule, good manners or sportsmanship,
or may have brought the sport into disrepute, it may call a hearing.


I think your day has suddenly gone downhill. If you won't respect other people's hobbies What should they respect yours?

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Originally posted by GK.LaserII

 It does seem that most (not all) fishermen think they have the god given right to fish where ever they want

I think you will find that legally, they do have the right to cast from public beaches, whereas legally, sailors don't have the right to wilfully destroy other people's property. 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Stefan Lloyd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Apr 07 at 6:11am

Originally posted by Harry44981!

. Fihsing beiing along the lines of the former- merely for the entertainment of catching fish, not in addition to catching more fish than the other guy.

Actually organised fishing competitions are common.

You may also find that fishermen will say they are fishing for food, not just for entertainment.

 

 

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 Our beach does have bouys that mark swimming areas and we don't stray into these areas. The area without bouys in front of our club is for the sailors, the incident with the fishermen happened in this area. Beach based sailing clubs do not have the whole ocean to race in as suggested by some of you. It does seem that most (not all) fishermen think they have the god given right to fish where ever they want to and resent giving a few hundred yards of beach to anyone else. Yes lets all get along and co-operate and let the fishermen fish everywhere and anyone who interferes deserves to be outcast and assaulted.

Bit of a rant I know but I'm over 50 so it's allowed OK

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Medway Maniac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Apr 07 at 11:40pm

How do you judge 30m or 50m?

I'd have thought everyone would gradually nudge closer to the shore to avoid the risk of being disadvantaged/to gain an advantage (the same reason they go aground).

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