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JohnW ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Jul 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 552 |
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So Mark - why was this article listed under "Dinghy News"? Dinghy news is generally for racing reports, this stuff is clearly not legal for racing dinghies and I would think not of too much interest to dinghy cruisers. The article suggests that it can reduce fuel consumption which is not a bad thing for power boats, but its placement in Dinghy News is perhaps inappropriate. It could tempt the unscrupulous to buy and apply it - as the chances of being found out are minimal except perhaps at the very top level regattas. |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Is it? I can't be bothered to read the press releases, but my understanding is that surface treatments are OK provided that they don't release anything into the water. |
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Mark Jardine ![]() Admin Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Mar 04 Location: Milford-on-Sea, United King Online Status: Offline Posts: 1028 |
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I put it under Dinghy News as, if this works, then it would help for dinghies. As for Rule 53: A boat shall not eject or release a substance, such as a polymer, or have specially textured surfaces that could improve the character of the flow of water inside the boundary layer. So I look on the FAQs on the HySpeedKote website at http://www.hyspeedkote.com/FAQ222.htm I saw the point: HSK dries to a hard finish and is water insoluble. Therefore they say it doesn't eject or release a substance, but is it a specially textured surface that could improve the character of the flow of water inside the boundary layer? I guess that's a question for ISAF. The closest I could find for this was this document on the ISAF website: http://www.sailing.org/26708.php Anyway, that was my thinking as to why it should be in dinghy news! |
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Villan ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Nov 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1768 |
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Can't you just tell them to do what other people have to do - "Buy an advert"? Same for Rooster - very thinly veiled adverts ... |
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Mark Jardine ![]() Admin Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Mar 04 Location: Milford-on-Sea, United King Online Status: Offline Posts: 1028 |
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Erm, Mailspeed Marine are an advertiser with us and the article is marked as a Mailspeed Marine article pretty clearly!
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JohnW ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Jul 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 552 |
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Ok fair point. Having read their website, and your ISAF link then, I suspect that it would only be illegal if it was considered to have a textured surface - I believe that rule is to stop the "shark skin" textures that some AC boats experimented with years ago. Are polymer "branches" a texture??? Their site certainly has some impressive testimonial claims on it - too impressive perhaps. One yacht sailor claimed his boat was 10% faster!! Thats would equate to about a 6 minute advantage in a 1 hour race. Edited by JohnW |
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alstorer ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Aug 07 Location: Cambridge Online Status: Offline Posts: 2899 |
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They're not thinly veiled at all. Anything that comes from an organisation that isn't a club or class is a paid for ad, as I understand it. Anything from any shop should be treated as so. It's what helps pay for this website to run, along with the banner and side bar adverts. It's always been this way. I don't find it that intrusive, either. |
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Mark Jardine ![]() Admin Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Mar 04 Location: Milford-on-Sea, United King Online Status: Offline Posts: 1028 |
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Spot on! |
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Pierre ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1532 |
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Phil eltringham ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: England/Hitchin Online Status: Offline Posts: 1105 |
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This and everything that is not polished off completely (ie: anything other than say a polish(!)) is not allowed because it leaves a "specially textured surface", and I would argue that that is the spirit of the rule. If that is genuiely the last thing that could speed you up in your sailing then your surname is probably Elvstrøm. |
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