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    Posted: 11 Feb 05 at 1:08pm

Ok That would be great but i sail at Chew so its quite a long way but another week would be amazing please!!!!!

 

Looks like its going to be a windy weekend! YEY!



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One difference between R's and cherubs though is the fact that R's come from a very windy country and UK Cherubs don't on the whole, so the R's whilst having about the same white sail area spend much more time fully powered...
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Where do you sail Wave Rider? We (me and the webmaster) will be at Datchet this weekend if you fancy a blast.
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I think part of the reason for the more rounded hulls and wide flairs of the 12's and R's is the large Kites set on long poles.

The large kite moves the center of effort forward resulting in alot of lee helm, the boats have to sail down wind heeled over to neutralise that and so need a hull shape that tollerates a bit of heel.

The larger Cherub Kites (If they happen) will not be as big as the 12' kites and the poles having to retract will also be shorter so the presure towards rounded hulls will not be as great
If it doesn't break it's too heavy; if it does it wasn't built right
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I am not sure if the boxy shape is much better underpowered, I you look at the R-Class boats which are similar to Cherubs in area, they have all headed down the Woof path.  However that may be due to the availability of the Woof mould rather than having to build a new boat.  But who knows.
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Wow Ok thanks that would be amazing!
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Well wave rider get on the cherub website www.sailingsource.com/cherub  and email the webmaster or come and see us at the dinghy show... Im sure we can help.

 
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Wow i want a go on a Cherub!

 

They are lush!

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The UK cherub hull shape may need to change to make it easier to sail ( as loco says above ) with the extra power, however it's not yet clear how much extra power the new rigs will give.
Maybe the existing flat boats will be still be OK, and faster than the 12 shapes - because the sail area is still small compared to 12 skiffs.


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Twin Poles wrote:


What sort of weight is that Loco Perro, are you having to put correctors in yet or do you just beef up the hull?


Loco Perro is around 45kgs - it has yet to be formally weighed as it wasnt "finished" at attendances at recent cherub events. So it will probably need around 5kgs of lead  to be legal. Its a pretty solid lay up compared to a number of other cherubs as I wanted one that would take a bit of stick.  

So far I'm really pleased with it, its a moderate design which isnt that different to some other cherubs around the waterline. The difference is the obviously "big" topsides. The theory behind the design (or reason for picking that design) was realated to the fact we now twin wire. When I'm in the boat and playing with two wires, things occasionally go wrong. I thought a more forgiving hull shape might allow us to get away with the occasional wobble around the marks or mis-calculation of downwind angles without too much trouble.  Only time will tell if I am right - but so far its been fun, and thats what its all about at the end of the day.  

With regard to the proposed changes in sail plan, if they are voted in, then older boats will be able to upgrade and boost all round speed with a bit off effort. The class hasn't shied away from this kind of challenge in the past and i'm sure that it will stimulate lots of playing with carbon and resin. 

At present there's plenty of cherub building activity and lots of interest in the class. Whichever way the vote goes the futures bright and heart shaped.

Class promotion over - have you guessed what I sail?

 

 

 
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