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    Posted: 05 Mar 07 at 6:17pm
When you get up again - why not have a go yourself Jim !  We are not claiming exceptional performance just very very much more than 'adaquate' and everything is relative - you might even be surprised if you were seen .... yes well 'alive' in one.  It's an open invitation that stands - or is this sort of boat just too humble to even try  ?

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Originally posted by blaze720

When you get up again - why not have a go yourself Jim ! 

Actually I've sailed one. But my amusement was nothing to do with sailing qualities, which I was't commenting on. My amusement was at your description of the hull form as low rocker... There is no way I would ever describe that hull as very low rocker unless maybe you're comparing it to an Alabacore or something. Aft of mid length especially it has quite a lot of rocker.
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Jim - Then set up a base line and get measuring and add a few figures to back up 'anecdote'.  We make them so we know - what exactly do you regard as 'low rocker'  then ?  The Blaze is a Howlett shape anyway and the story goes that between drawing and tooling production an error flattened it by a further 2-3 cm !!.  It's not  'extreme' in overall terms but its very low rocker for this type of boat - comparing it with a Albacore makes me wonder from what angle you viewed it - wetside up  perhaps ? 

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OK this is really a huge amount of rocker ( Merlin Rocket banana boat)



and this is low rocker ( even for a cherub ):



I would suggest that the blaze is therefore moderate rocker!

Just tell us the numbers!


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Context guys - its not a Cherub although even I dabbled there once upon a long time ago indeed !   (probably before most current Cherub racers were born) The Blaze class is far from being as extreme and it is a medium speed hiking singlehander - but relative to its 'peers' its very flat indeed.  Think Phantom, Laser etc.  We all know what extreme means and it is always relative to the context.

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Grief mate, it is not a criticism to say that the Blaze is not a "very low rocker" boat. Bearing in mind the various vices that can come with banging that particular design corner its more the reverse. Its a pretty typical mainstream late 80s British hull shape evolved from the pre amalgamation 14 design style.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote aardvark_issues Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Mar 07 at 9:55am
I actually thought it needed a bit more rocker to be a truely good alrounder,
but having said that from my one sail in it I think its actually a bit of a
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Turns out I would have won the fast handicap fleet even though they started
3 minutes ahead!

Surprisingly nice boat, but then so was the EPS...
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Originally posted by aardvark_issues

I actually thought it needed a bit more rocker to be a truely good alrounder,


The times i've sailed one it goes like a rocket but tacking it makes it scoop up water from the open back. Isn't this because of the lack of rocker and buoyancy at the back of the boat?
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Originally posted by Norbert

tacking it makes it scoop up water from the open back. Isn't this because of the lack of rocker and buoyancy at the back of the boat?

More likely you're just tacking too far back in the boat... I hadn't noticed that happening when I sailed one. (or do you weigh 19 stone?)
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Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by Norbert

tacking it makes it scoop up water from the open back. Isn't this because of the lack of rocker and buoyancy at the back of the boat?
 
do you weigh 19 stone?)

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