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blaze720 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1635 |
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When you get up again - why not have a go yourself Jim ! We are not claiming exceptional performance just very very much more than 'adaquate' and everything is relative - you might even be surprised if you were seen .... yes well 'alive' in one. It's an open invitation that stands - or is this sort of boat just too humble to even try ?
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Actually I've sailed one. But my amusement was nothing to do with sailing qualities, which I was't commenting on. My amusement was at your description of the hull form as low rocker... There is no way I would ever describe that hull as very low rocker unless maybe you're comparing it to an Alabacore or something. Aft of mid length especially it has quite a lot of rocker. |
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blaze720 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1635 |
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Jim - Then set up a base line and get measuring and add a few figures to back up 'anecdote'. We make them so we know - what exactly do you regard as 'low rocker' then ? The Blaze is a Howlett shape anyway and the story goes that between drawing and tooling production an error flattened it by a further 2-3 cm !!. It's not 'extreme' in overall terms but its very low rocker for this type of boat - comparing it with a Albacore makes me wonder from what angle you viewed it - wetside up perhaps ?
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I luv Wight ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Jan 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 628 |
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OK this is really a huge amount of rocker ( Merlin Rocket banana boat)
![]() and this is low rocker ( even for a cherub ): ![]() I would suggest that the blaze is therefore moderate rocker! Just tell us the numbers! Edited by I luv Wight |
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blaze720 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1635 |
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Context guys - its not a Cherub although even I dabbled there once upon a long time ago indeed ! (probably before most current Cherub racers were born) The Blaze class is far from being as extreme and it is a medium speed hiking singlehander - but relative to its 'peers' its very flat indeed. Think Phantom, Laser etc. We all know what extreme means and it is always relative to the context.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Grief mate, it is not a criticism to say that the Blaze is not a "very low rocker" boat. Bearing in mind the various vices that can come with banging that particular design corner its more the reverse. Its a pretty typical mainstream late 80s British hull shape evolved from the pre amalgamation 14 design style.
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aardvark_issues ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jul 05 Location: Weston-Super-Mare Online Status: Offline Posts: 505 |
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I actually thought it needed a bit more rocker to be a truely good alrounder,
but having said that from my one sail in it I think its actually a bit of a handicap bandit! Turns out I would have won the fast handicap fleet even though they started 3 minutes ahead! Surprisingly nice boat, but then so was the EPS... |
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Norbert ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 351 |
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The times i've sailed one it goes like a rocket but tacking it makes it scoop up water from the open back. Isn't this because of the lack of rocker and buoyancy at the back of the boat? |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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More likely you're just tacking too far back in the boat... I hadn't noticed that happening when I sailed one. (or do you weigh 19 stone?) |
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Look at the avatar ... probably ... |
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