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    Posted: 02 Feb 07 at 11:40pm
I once had a thing called a Zoom which had been abandoned at a distant club. It had two mast positions and two shroud positions, one for single sail and one for a jib as well. It came with no sails and so I fitted an old lightning main and a laser two jib. Rig tension when single sailing was achieved with an old jib wire with a 2x2x1 and a trap adjuster and when using 2 sails I fitted a halliard rack
on the jib halliard. To tension it all up you could haul in on the forestay, hook on the rack and away you went. Well, not me but my mate did, and it seemed quite effective. Very laser like. Sold it on ebay! Has anyone ever seen one? It was a very professional moulding.
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Originally posted by allanorton

Contenders look as though there's plenty of room for a jib, they're certainly built stong enough to take one, I reckon you'd get about 505 pace upwind with one.

I was going to rig a Laser 4000 jib onto my Contender with a basic selftacking system , but It was taller than the forestay. So as I didn't want to drill any more holes in the mast I didn't bother, but if you can get a smaller jib it's not difficult to do.

My plan was to just replace the forestay with a rope forestay and a cleat at the bottom, putting a wire up the front of the jib, with a block on a "T" hook in the mast for it to run through

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dangerousday Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Feb 07 at 9:31pm

A self tackers an interesting idea, though I suspect that I would have a temptation for it to go from 'just for the kids to play with' to a 'the winds quite light, I can manage it by myself and hike a bit harder'

Theres also an old broken fibreglass mast at the back of the dinghy park, and I've got a raggy aysmmetric off an MX-Ray..........

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Post Options Post Options   Quote owain Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Feb 07 at 6:18pm
At the fireball nationals a few years ago, im pretty sure that one guy used a phantom main. It cant be far off the same size, as it had to get measured to sail in the event
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That's something I've thought about, perhaps with a self tacking arrangement as there is already a fair bit to do when tacking.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote allanorton Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Feb 07 at 3:07pm
Contenders look as though there's plenty of room for a jib, they're certainly built stong enough to take one, I reckon you'd get about 505 pace upwind with one.
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No my phantom north sail looked nothing like a fireball main
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The Phantom main is a slightly cut down version of a Fireball main. Although given the recent developments I would say the 2 sails are no longer as alike as they used to be.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dangerousday Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Feb 07 at 9:57am

Having had a further thought on it, I don't think the mast (needlespar) actually belongs to the boat as the stays are too short to reach the plates without the use of a long shackle. Maybe it is from a fireball as the main seems to fit it ok.

The boat is a very old one anyway (#490 ish) and a previous owner obviously decided it wasn't heavy enough and has covered the entire hull in a layer of grp.

Guess that makes it a composite hull

Was a cheap buy, more to see if I liked the class (love it!) before shelling out for a newer boat and never intended anything more than pottering about anyway.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Merlinboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jan 07 at 10:34pm
Phantom rig is stayed.
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