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Rossiter Pintail Mortagne sur Gironde, near Bordeaux |
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sailor.jon ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 02 Nov 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 361 |
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hi all. long time since i posted, hopefully you wont hold that against me as i could do with some advice, i'm fed up with the laser and wanting something faster,
so after looking about for a while ive managed to get it down to two, the laser vortex and the RS700, To me the RS700 looks amazing, it would be signicantly more brass then the vortex and be harder to sail, although i don't mind a challange i'd be worried that in the windy stuff i'd end up staying on shore. i'd be sailing the boat which ever it may be on grimwith resoviour (yorkshire dales sc) they have more vortexs at that club then anywhere i can think of; and only 1 or 2 700's though i aint too bothered about fleets as handicap racing is just as fun, what are the proformances like, has anyone sailed boat? or either? then theres running costs, the vortex would be allot cheaper to buy replacement parts for as well as insuring the 700 insurance quotes are mad. any thought would be greatly appriciated, ive done a search of the forum but there isn't a comparison between the two, its all RS700/MPS etc. |
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Jon Emmett ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 988 |
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To me it looks like the RS700 is slowly and surely being wiped out by the Musto Skiff. After all these are very similiar boats and therefore it makes sense which in the long term only one can really survive!
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Strawberry ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Jun 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1337 |
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Controversial....
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Jon Emmett ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 988 |
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Maybe but lets have a look at the stats the start of 2010...
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Strawberry ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Jun 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1337 |
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Just playing devils advocate here. But other classes in Britain which are equally similiar seem to co-exist quite happily. Why should it be any different for the 700/MPS? |
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Jon Emmett ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 988 |
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I guess your example would be single handers (where some are Youth/Olympic boats and others are not). What classes where you thinking of which were very similiar but co-exist quite happily.
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Strawberry ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Jun 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1337 |
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The Finn and the Phantom, the Supernova and the Blaze, for instance. |
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Jon Emmett ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 988 |
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IMVHO The Finn and the Phantom are not the same, one is for the Olympic aspirational sailor the other is not! The supernova and the Blaze require different optimum crew weights and are for those who do not want to sail Laser/Radial (Olympic boats). We are lucky that there is a lot of single handers so most people can choose there niche and still have a good flight to race against as there are so many single handers. However there are not really the numbers in high performance single handers (to get for example 100 boats at a Nationals). So one class is likely to suffer. Having seen a lot of the top RS700 sailors looking to or have purchased MPS... it looked like rats leaving a sinking ship!!!!
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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National 12/Firefly, Merlin/MRX/Scorpion/Lark, Leader/GP14/Kestrel/Wanderer/Bosun, 470/Fireball/Hornet Enterprise/Albacore, lots more... I submit that its probably harder to think of a class that doesn'thave a close competitor until you hit the extremes
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Strawberry ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Jun 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1337 |
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I think this thread can be considered well and truely hijacked!
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