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    Posted: 27 Nov 06 at 6:43pm

Mark Giles of lightning 368 and sujpernova fame?

Also note the Buzz that has gone to a new independant builder. 

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A builder/ designer that I am friendly with has designed 2 succesfull single handers, One of them has been in small scale but steady production for 30 years and he still produced 2 boats last year. The other design has been very succesfull and has now been sold off. When working flat out he produced 3 boats a month, on his own! Small cheap workshop with low overheads. Now that made money. Incidentaly there were 5 new Tasars.
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I believe the 3000 had one new boat last year which was the prototype V3000 and 5 new boats this year so things are looking up. The medway maniac may correct me on these numbers.
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Lasers used squencial numbers in blocks, so for example the UK builders may have 188501-188800 and OZ builders may have 188001-188900.
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Originally posted by JimC

The Musto guys do seem to be very open with the numbers. I think they're as reliable as any and more so than most. You also have to give them credit for starting at 1. So few classes do these days.

Thanks Jim, production actually started at 050.

There were I think 7 prototypes/pre prods which were numbers 1 - 7.

The first 50 are reserved in the same way as they are for the 29er & 49er so that the top 50 at the worlds can use their position as a single / double digit sail number.

As we will have our first proper world championship in Garda in 2007 perhaps we'll start using these numbers ...

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The Musto guys do seem to be very open with the numbers. I think they're as reliable as any and more so than most. You also have to give them credit for starting at 1. So few classes do these days.

There is a lot of inflation going on, and other naughties too. For instance Laser conflates Full rig, Radial and 4.7 sales into a single total, then lists the single total separately for each class!

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Jim,

You overlooked the winner of the "Where is my Bonus boss" category this year with 60 boats sold ... Musto Skiff

Also there were loads of Fireflies built ...

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Ah, but are you sure you can believe the Musto marketing guy, Rick?

Don't forget, he's probably paid to make inflated claims to hype the class.

All Musto Skiff owners are listed here (as best we can keep up with them)

http://www.mustoskiff.com/sailors-database.htm

Sail numbers are issued sequentially and there are no gaps. We have never inflated any sail numbers or build figures; we welcome any audit.

Our numbers were audited by ISAF as part of the recent application which was approved when the class was approved for ISAF Recognized Status. (Note: ISAF require we use the Z not an S).

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Jim,

You overlooked the winner of the "Where is my Bonus boss" category this year with 60 boats sold ... Musto Skiff

Also there were loads of Fireflies built ...

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Ah, but are you sure you can believe the Musto marketing guy, Rick?

Don't forget, he's probably paid to make inflated claims to hype the class.


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Yep, I left out single handers and long standing classes, just as last year. The Musto Skiff is shipping about the same numbers the RS600 did at a similar stage in its life cycle, which is obviously very respectable indeed.

So far none of the "new wave" UK based SMODs seem to have managed to be still healthy ten years from introduction (other than Laser 2000 and Pico!). Of the racers from 1985 to 1995 only the 49er (and maybe the B14) looks as if it will still be about in 10 years time. It will be interetsting to see what happens to classes like the 3000 that move to the more traditional class association led model rather the advertising backed SMOD route.



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Jim,

You overlooked the winner of the "Where is my Bonus boss" category this year with 60 boats sold ... Musto Skiff

Also there were loads of Fireflies built ...

Rick



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