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k_kirk 
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Joined: 09 May 06 Location: Japan Online Status: Offline Posts: 172 |
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 Topic: Trapeze harnessPosted: 05 Nov 06 at 2:38am |
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Well, you can always do like I did. Have as many kids as you want as soon as possible so this concern becomes a non-concern!
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combat wombat
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Joined: 16 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 345 |
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Posted: 01 Nov 06 at 12:22am |
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Certainly not ideal Curlyben... Think if I'm doing any more 18 sailing
I'll have to sort myself out with a proper harness, it really did ruin
the experience! There really is nothing worse than trying to
sheet 80 sq/m of kite whilst worrying about future family
prospects...
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CurlyBen
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Joined: 17 Aug 05 Location: Southampton Online Status: Offline Posts: 539 |
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Posted: 31 Oct 06 at 7:16pm |
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Wombat I've got that harness too and had the same problems - less than ideal on the 49er
 I'm going to replace it but trying to decide what with - tried a mate's custom in Minorca and it was great (even tho it wasn't made for me), but on the other hand I tend to wear a drysuit in the winter which won't work too well with the whole custom fitting idea... on top of that a friend can get me a good discount on strappy harnesses if I wait till Christmas!
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bovlike
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Posted: 29 Oct 06 at 11:44pm |
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When I worked for Ovington I tried the Bethwaite harness on my musto skiff fund it hard to clip on with and it came out when I was wiring low ending in me having two short tillers extensions rather than one long one not ideal!!! Dil (skiffman) not sure about people using 2 harness but sure it is done. I guess they use the RMW harness a heavy one? Mine weighs about 2kg I think never weighed it though. |
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Ian (Bov) Turnbull
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Skiffman
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Posted: 29 Oct 06 at 11:15pm |
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It could be your harness, if you get a made to measure harness like P&B or just find one that fits well then it should not hurt at all. I had a gill harness that I used that was quite painful, but now I have made to measure that does not hurt. Does anyone on this forum use a heavy harness when it is windy? \in the 49er most of the teams have 2 harness's. By heavy harness i mean 2-3kg but it still floats so it is legal. |
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combat wombat
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Posted: 28 Oct 06 at 10:41pm |
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I have the Gill harness that is going cheap from LDC.
Am I wearing it wrong? On the Contender its ok (but not exactly armchair like), but when I sailed the 18 I was sure that it was definitely reducing my chances of having kids (the harness, not the boat). I'm assuming that the difference is from the stance you take when trapezing (ie Contender, feet together usually fairly high on the wire due to low freeboard, 18 footer flat wiring with legs apart). Can anyone who's got this harness give me some "fitting tips"? |
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29er397
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Posted: 28 Oct 06 at 9:10pm |
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Medway Maniac,
My bro and his helm went for the Bethwaite system wen they moved into the RS800. They tryed to get on with it for around half a season, then got so fed up that they replaced it with the Magic Marine spreader bar, which they love. The main issue as you say, is with the location of the bal into the socket. It actually needed pushing/clicking into place whilst there was little or no pressure on the ball. This made wire to wire tacking very difficult as the ball would often seem like it was clicked in, then 10 seconds or so after having weight on them they would slip out, and sploosh! So in a Skiffy type boat where wire to wire is essential, they were deffinatly not ideal. I personally have a RWO quick release on my harness, it seems just as reliable as a normal hook, However i carry a knife just incase. I have also used the MM quick release which seemed very good also. |
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Medway Maniac
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Posted: 28 Oct 06 at 8:05pm |
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Does anyone else have experience of the Bethwaite ball-in-slot trapeze system (in the meantime)? I'm thinking that as well as being safer (I've known several people including myself to get hooked onto various bits of boat), it must be a lot kinder when scraped along the hull, e.g during capsizes. The 'slower to hook on' objection I've heard before, but I've also seen it refuted by someone who said you just needed time to adapt to it - most of us have spent considerable time adapting to the hook system, after all. |
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Dave389
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Joined: 28 Dec 05 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 17 |
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Posted: 25 Jan 06 at 7:44pm |
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It was the drowning of a Austrian olimpic tornado sailer that started the move for QR hooks the RWO and i think the MM QRH have been tested to distruction RWO managed to straighten the hook without the release pin giving in. I have the MM type as a retro fit to my old harness available from northamton sailboats. use it on a hurricane 5.9 and soon to be tornado sport Dave |
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Adds
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Posted: 25 Jan 06 at 1:46pm |
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I have seen and talked to someone who had the Bethwaite hook. It is great in principle but isn't as good as the good old hook in practice.
He said that it was much harder to locate, and wasn't as good for flat wiring. There is no point talkin about QRH harnesses till ISAF tell us what the rule is going to be, cause all the QRH systems at the moment could be illegal. |
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