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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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As for SMOD 2 sailed boats, the Firefly is one, of course! Topper tried to bring out the Topaz Duo a few years ago, but that was just horrible. Maybe the reason is that 2 sailed boats tend not to be about absolute speed, but about close quarters sailing, and the advances in boat design recently with asymmetics have been all about speed in a breeze. Certainly, on a small lake in the light stuff it is difficult to beat an Albacore or Firefly on the water, let alone on handicap. And the only ones who can sometimes are Ents and 12's. On the sea in a bit of breeze, it is a different story, of course, which is why there are 49ers out there!
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Firefly crewing! Amazing how common it is to marry your crew in the Firefly class...It is the best way to keep a good crew...Then kids come along and you are back to square one...Still, my six year old has started crewing now, so things may be on the up again! |
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Stefan Lloyd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599 |
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Yes it is, otherwise the only people sailing keelboats competively would be very large and invariably male. Gordon seems to be arguing that the Star is unusual in having a weight limit; that is not the case.
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Stefan Lloyd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599 |
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What circumstances would those be then?
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Iain C ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1113 |
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I sailed a two sail dinghy once. It felt fast and responsive upwind. It also presented a tactical option on the first donwind leg, either pretnd in the bar later that it was a bit tight, or go back tail between legs and attach the kite...
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tickel ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 408 |
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The trouble with most 2 sail boats is that you need at least one friend. Wives are no use exept in exeptional circumstances and finding crew/helm who will stay together can be dificult. I am at least lucky to have been sailing with a miserable self centred bastard for the last 5 years. We carry on because no one else will take us on, exept the Tasar Nats when I sailed with my daughters boyfreind who tried to kill me. We do have two things in common, we are both crap and we have 9 children between us, 5 of his and 4 of mine. I can see no escape from this misery and we own half the Tasar each. Hey ho thats life.
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gordon ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Sep 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1037 |
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I agree. I will be away for a few days but wheni get back I will post my thoughts on weight limits and the decreasing size of sailors.
To get back to the 2-sail dinghies. There seems to be a lot of people sailing them, a big demand for tactical sailing (downwind legs become nautical chess-games when a gybe incurs no speed penalty). So why aren't the SMOD builders interested? Gordon |
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tgruitt ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Dec 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2479 |
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Needs to sail more...
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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I believe that's true for most leadmines. |
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Harry44981! ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 736 |
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i'd class at mid weight bloke at about 80-85 kg. You're particularly tall, Gordon, but I doubt many people would fit in your redisigned average. i'm 180cm and 63kg- and there are full grown men a lot smaller and lighter than me.
I agree ther should be a true heavyweight dinghy, but would there be a big enough market? I think the current option is to go into something like an RS400 and get a crew/helm of a size that combined you are the correct weight. |
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