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    Posted: 14 Sep 06 at 6:17pm
What you really need for power speed economy and safety is a Jet boat!
Nice guarded water intake loads of power and enough speed to get
around the place. Oh and loads of fun for the poor old rescue driver stuck
on it all day!

So something like this would be the ultimate

http://www.aluminium-jet-ribs.co.uk/index.htm

maybe a little smaller thought!
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Originally posted by 29er397


hang on a mo... Arn't you supposed to kill the engine as soon as you make contact with someone in the water?


Its certainly what I was taught to do, but people make mistakes, people even fall out of boats, and its a big risk that is well worth reducing.

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I second that fergus! I have done a fair share of resuce duties at bbsc and i have to say that a rib is a perfext safety boat. I personally HATE commandos! they're rubbish safety boats. A rib is versatile and i would rather someone bumped my 14 with a rib than with a dory or commando! And yes when in contact with a casualty or man overboard the engine is turned off!
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Ideally the RIB shouldn't be towing boats. The RIBs are there to ensure the safety of  competitors.

 

The ideal is to have a heavy launch with a good diesel engine for towing boats - I would also like to have such a boat availble for laying marks anywhere where water is deep and tides are strong. In this case a pot-hauling power winch would be a wonderful addition to the boat's gear(dream on)

 

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For small protected water and working with toppers/oppies I like a 4m RIB or dory with about 15-20 HP

For open water I would prefer something like 5.5 -6m with twin 30-40HP and twin fuel tanks should be able to get on the plane with one engine out for when one of them goes down. twin engines also gives great controll for an alongside tow. It is a bit pricy running two engines though.
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Fergus you are correct. I'm sure ive heard a case of someone slashing a sponson to roll someone in. Not sure that would be of great use in big waves but I could be wrong.
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hang on a mo... Arn't you supposed to kill the engine as soon as you make contact with someone in the water? I may be wrong but that is what i was told on my L2 powerboat course. If that is not the case then surley it is not the design of the rib that is at fault, but the person driving it if it hits some one in the water?

Towing heavy boats is hard enough with the 50hp that we use at my club, i personally wouldn't want to attempt towing boats with anything much less than a 30hp. Apart from that, a bigger engine doesn't mean you have to use it at ful speed when you have a casualty on board, however it is very usefull when you have multiple boats over and need to count heads, especially High performance boats.

A last resort to getting a unable body out of the water is deflating one of the tubes, assuming the hull is stable enough without fulltubes, am i wrong in saying that they are designed to be able to travel with an uninflated tube?


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I think the hull must be a rib, the tubes do provide good protection against other boats.  I also think that a centre console is necessary to give better balace and visibility.  Equipment should include knives & wire cutters, radio, possibly a spare bouy with tackle, anchor.  "Luxury" items would include GPS and built in radio.  Engine should probably be close to the maximum size specified by the hull's manufacturer.
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Its all important stuff this. Clearly a propguard that you can get an Oppie sailor sized limb through is worse than useless.

So an ideal Rescue boat would have...

Low sides or at least one low side that you can roll injured folk in with the minimum of lifting and disturbance

A prop guard or protected impeller unit that cannot possibly cause injury, cannot or v difficult snag loose ropes (getting difficult here) and cannot shred sails

Enough speed to get to incidents fast (don't want folk drowning before you get to them)

Steady to not bump the injured too much on return.

Don't want much, do we.

(oh yes, and cheap for poor clubs to buy!)


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Depends on ...

Sea state, wind, tide, depth, driver skill and of course what it is your are trying to rescue ...

On average I'd go for a 5m RIB with a 60 on the back for looking after dinghys.

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