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    Posted: 03 Dec 08 at 3:19pm

When we are training new comers we often sail the boat 2 up. I have sailed my boat with 26 stone on board with no problem ...

here is an example from the recent training at Rutland ...

Got me thinking of what would happen if you upgraded the rig with a jib & mast head kite and added another trapeze and you end up with a light weight couples twin trap boat. Bit of a XX concept I guess but with a different starting point ...

Same, hull, foils, mast, boom, bowsprite, wings etc ... just add a few bits of string, a new set of sails and your girlfriend or wife (or vice versa).

NOTE: this is nothing to do with Ovis, Musto or the MPSCA just a daft idea really for interest ...
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Originally posted by Guest#260

When we are training new comers we often sail the boat 2 up. I have sailed my boat with 26 stone on board with no problem ...

here is an example from the recent training at Rutland ...

Got me thinking of what would happen if you upgraded the rig with a jib & mast head kite and added another trapeze and you end up with a light weight couples twin trap boat. Bit of a XX concept I guess but with a different starting point ...

Same, hull, foils, mast, boom, bowsprite, wings etc ... just add a few bits of string, a new set of sails and your girlfriend or wife (or vice versa).

NOTE: this is nothing to do with Ovis, Musto or the MPSCA just a daft idea really for interest ...

Sounds like an intersting idea, would the mast stand it?

 

Or, you could by an F16 if your club allows Cats.....

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Originally posted by Scooby_simon

Originally posted by Guest#260

When we are training new comers we often sail the boat 2 up. I have sailed my boat with 26 stone on board with no problem ...

here is an example from the recent training at Rutland ...

Got me thinking of what would happen if you upgraded the rig with a jib & mast head kite and added another trapeze and you end up with a light weight couples twin trap boat. Bit of a XX concept I guess but with a different starting point ...

Same, hull, foils, mast, boom, bowsprite, wings etc ... just add a few bits of string, a new set of sails and your girlfriend or wife (or vice versa).

NOTE: this is nothing to do with Ovis, Musto or the MPSCA just a daft idea really for interest ...

Sounds like an intersting idea, would the mast stand it?

Dunno ... I think it probably would as it is a very strong section; you'd need to add uppers for a mast head kite ... I am sure the nice chaps at Selden could advise ...

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Perhaps you could fit a self-tacking crew that passes in front of the mast?!
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Originally posted by Guest#260

... just add a few bits of string, a new set of sails and your girlfriend or wife (or vice versa).

Funny, I mis-read that initially as "your gifted girlfriend". Given that stability characteristics of the MPS (esp. if you add a bigger, heavier rig), I think I may have hit on appropriate wording...

Still, an interesting idea. I know the Contenders did try it for fun, but the low hounds imposed a very short-luff jib, so it looked a bit odd. Hull-wise, I'd have thought the Contender a better basis for a two-up conversion.
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Originally posted by Medway Maniac

Still, an interesting idea. I know the Contenders did try it for fun, but the low hounds imposed a very short-luff jib, so it looked a bit odd. Hull-wise, I'd have thought the Contender a better basis for a two-up conversion.



Good heavens no!  There isn't actually much room at all in a contender cockpit.  I sailed mine quite recently with my gifted girlfriend along for the ride and there just wasn't enough space.  I struggle sometimes to get me under the boom (especially if I forget to let off the kicker ) never mind two of us!
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Originally posted by turnturtle

hey rick... you know when you're first learning in an mps and you inevitably
try to tack and stand too far forward, maybe in line with the plate slot; only
to find the gap between the boom and the deck is not that big there and you
get fully wedgied.... well basically I wouldn't want to see what would happen
if I tried to squeeze a crew through the gap mid gybe!

You'd have to put the boom on the gnav gooseneck and use a conventional vang - you could use one of those Harken laser 15:1 jobbies.

I am doing a Photoshop hack up to show what I mean .... watch this space ...



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Originally posted by Medway Maniac

Originally posted by Guest#260

... just add a few bits of string, a new set of sails and your girlfriend or wife (or vice versa).

Funny, I mis-read that initially as "your gifted girlfriend". Given that stability characteristics of the MPS (esp. if you add a bigger, heavier rig), I think I may have hit on appropriate wording...

We find that with an extra body on body in the boat is much easier to handle; more stable and things happen slower ... so great for training ...

The rig would only be increased in weight by bigger sails; I propose useing the same mast & boom ... minimal kit change .. flip modes in 15 minutes



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This is kinda what I had in mind ...

Downwind version coming ....
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Originally posted by winging it

Originally posted by Medway Maniac

Still, an interesting idea. I know the Contenders did try it for fun, but the low hounds imposed a very short-luff jib, so it looked a bit odd. Hull-wise, I'd have thought the Contender a better basis for a two-up conversion.



Good heavens no!  There isn't actually much room at all in a contender cockpit.  I sailed mine quite recently with my gifted girlfriend along for the ride and there just wasn't enough space.  I struggle sometimes to get me under the boom (especially if I forget to let off the kicker ) never mind two of us!

Have you tried light wind tacking (in front of the mainsheet) yet? Good for entertaining the rest of the fleet but demonstrates how small a 7' cockpit really is... and the end of the tiller extension reaches to every inch of it which has lead to at least 1 partner with a black eye.
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