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    Posted: 09 Oct 08 at 2:09pm

One interesting point is about the level of debt it's assumed you leave with ...

These days no-one bats an eyelid at young people racking up 20k of student debt, then the cycle of living off other peoples money is learnt sub-20 years old and then it goes on ... perhaps this is why we are in the mess we are in now.

When I was at Uni no-one had debt, of if they did it was just a maxed out overdraft of say £500.

That said when we were at uni everyone lived within their means, very few people hard cars or boats, there were no mobile phones or iPods and we drank homebrew and cheap vodka before going out as a money saving exercise.

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It is possible to do courses in boat building, or maritime degrees in things useful. As has been said going to uni seems the done thing to see how far you can push your boundaries, your liver and your wallet!
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I'm currently in my second year of A levels and am currently studying Maths, Physics and Chemistry, and i really don't think it is easy, although i do agree that i think GCSE's are slightly easier although this depends on the subject with certain subjects easier than others and as we are on the subject of PE its definately not an easy one and i couldn't of done it. The problem with this is in my opinion is it is a big step from GCSE to A level and alot of people myself included didn't realise this at first.

On the subject of debt, before you actually get to uni it seems you need to spend 6 grand on just tuition and accomadation so i don't think there is the option of no debt at uni anymore.
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University fees was a big discussion point when I was at Uni, as it was just after I left that they abolished grants and brought in the loans instead. To be honest the loan system is probably the fairest system assuming that university educations are reserved for the academically elite, who would then be guarenteed a job however with so many students at uni, there just arnt jobs for them and therefore massive debts have been run up with no chance of paying them off.

The old system of grants favoured the poor and the rich and shafted those in the middle.

I managed to get through 4yrs of uni with no grant and I only took out a student loan for one year and bought a Laser with it, so left Uni with £1500 loan. I worked my arse of every summer working nights at a motorway service station, and easter and christmas holidays were spent at a data entry company to ensure that I had money to live on.

As you say Rick we didnt have mobile phones back then. I remember the long ques by the row of public phone boxes on the campus at 6pm when you could use your home phonecard, and very few of us had a car.

My little sis has just finished her degree at Nottingham Trent and based on her fees, accomodation etc. I worked out I could have left uni with £6500 debt had I been there over the last 3years, which is someway short of the averages that are banded around of close to 20k. The sad fact is though, that so many students expect to be able to swan around fashionable city centres buying designer labels and drinking in fancy bars, that coupled with the fact they seem to have no appreciation for the value of money, means that they rack up monumental debt and land us all in the economic situation we find ourselves in.

I now consider myself to be a pretty good earner with a good career but I couldnt possibly justify going out on the lash in Bristol city centre more than once a month, so how can the students do it everynight, unless they are loading up the credit cards?

A bit of Financial common sense needs to be taught I think.
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Debt is pretty much unavoidable if you go to uni now.  Yes, we do live in a culture of debt, buy now pay later, loans etc, but about £8000 pa before you even think about beer money, its pretty hard not to run into debt.  Then you have to add in; course materials, transport and basic food.  Course materials vary depending on your course, but mine were £300 pa - [2 yrs ago.  Only brought the core books, all of which were second hand.]  My flatmate's are alot more.  Probably in the £1000+ range.

Anyway, if I could've done sailing as part of my GCSEs, I would've done it in a heartbeat.  At least one of them would be enjoyable.  If you go onto further and higher education, and as long as you pass Maths and English, no one cares what you did at GCSE.  I vaguely remember what I did, but on my CV I just list - GCSEs, including Maths and English passes.  Or something to that affect.

Good luck and enjoy yourself.

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While I was under 18, I did 2 years at College, got a Btec ND. (It'll do me fine for now, Signing up for a Cisco CCNA / MCDST in the next few weeks when I have the money)

I'm very glad I didnt do Uni etc ... I think I could have handled the work side of it, but its the culture that comes with it that I couldnt. Debt, A liver that hates you for the next 8 years, and even more debt.

So I came out of my course at the end of the 2 years, went into a job with a local company that I have now been with for 2 years, have started racking up good references for future employment, as well as office experience!

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Originally posted by turnturtle

....drunken snogging at 4pm...

Blimey tt, where did you go to uni....4pm!

I was lucky enough to have gone when there were still grants, even so it wasn't much, many ended up in debt but that was largely the 2 foreign holidays a year and running a car etc.

I lived in London for 6 years with no money from parents and not a penny of overdraft. Lived in damp flats in Hackney, drove cheap motoerbikes, worked in the holidays, bought clothes in Oxfam shops and ate cheap crap...but eeee by gum it did me good....

Joking aside, its not hard to keep the debt down with a bit of common sense. Just work hard and live within your means. It's not forever after all.

 

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Ah yes...

Student bars with sticky floors.....one working lightbulb.....a battered space invaders machine...and some ne'er do well sleeping quietly in the corner.....

Brings a tear to my eye.

 

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Originally posted by jeffers

I agree, when the pass mark for an A is 55% and an A* 65% what do you expect? I think it is criminal!

What??

 If your so sure of that TELL THE EXAMINERS......

.....last year the grade boundries for Drama were;

A* 98%

A 92%

B 85%

C 76%

Do you want the grade boundries for other subjects aswell or is that ok?

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hahaha, couldn't be arsed to read 5 pages i'm afraid mate!

FIRST - A* is 80% across the board, apart from subjects with different tiers, like maths where A* on higher tier is about 60/70% yes).

However, I did sailing as part of GCSE PE which i got an A* :]. I don't know if you've got it, but I can send you the list of things you have to demo if you want it? its p*ss easy if you can sail a b14 :]. I had to ask someone to film me though, because teach wouldn't come down.

BTW. I got filmed at the time where i could've been filmed in a int14/ cherub BUT, I'd be very careful about getting filmed entirely in it becuase they often like being shown basic manoevers performed perfectly, which is FAR easier in an easy boat, like a topper or something.

And those who said GCSE PE's easy .. it's not, even though you can get marked on four sports, they make a tiny percentage of your coursework mark, therefore an even smaller percentage of your overall GCSE. Its not academically uber hard, but you need to be sh*t hot on the physiology in PE and the coursework takes bloody ages.... :].

Uh yeah, good luck mate & PM me if you want the list of things to demonstrate?

Sounds like you go to a school like mine, where nobody does sailing... they'll give you a good mark :P. 

 



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