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Jon Emmett 
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 Topic: Olympic ClassesPosted: 14 Apr 04 at 7:22pm |
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Boats like 49er and Lasers are measured at events. A good example of the differences are that Ozzy spars for Lasers are 25% stiffer than the ones we buy in the UK. Hence people in strict one design boats will still tend to have their favourite mast, hull, sails etc and put together, these add up to a small speed advantage. I think that the out of a hat system (like for the Laser Worlds) works well and therefore the Radial would be a good boat for the 2008 games. The technique side of Radial sailing is very similiar to the Europe... meaning the best sailors win, with no advantage to be gained from technical development.
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sjm.
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Posted: 14 Apr 04 at 8:14pm |
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Sorry Adoo the topic change was my fault Si.
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Sarah B
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Posted: 15 Apr 04 at 9:39am |
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However when thinking about current and potential olympic classes we need to look overseas. Just because we have a small active 470 and Europe class in this country doesn't mean it is the same in other countries.
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bexmarriott
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Posted: 15 Apr 04 at 9:55am |
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I think there are many advantages of the 470 class in the UK. Although it is a small class, the quality of sailing, as expected of an Olympic class, is incredibly high. You can learn so much from the other sailors in the fleet. I only started sailing the boats in November, after never having trapezed before or, from previous classes had to worry too much about critical boat tuning - I never knew that much about it. Now I've been sailing 470s for 5-6months, I can see just how important it is. Unlike so many dinghy classes in the UK, the 470 fleet are always happy to help anybody. I know we struggle with boat speed even now, and there is little point in racing in a small fleet until you're up to speed, and everyone offers their opinions and knowledge. When people try out new things, people are interested, as opposed to other classes, where perhaps they would ridicule them. The other advantage of the class, is that although it is small, you get the competitiveness from the funding qualifications to go abroad, and even if you don't qualify for funding, most events you can go to anyway, fairly cheaply. (I know this, being a student)! I could go on even more, but I wont... The class still has an active association, visit www.arrowsails.co.uk/gbr470 for more information. |
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IanW
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Posted: 15 Apr 04 at 12:56pm |
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Fireballs are great.
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Haggis
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Posted: 21 Apr 04 at 1:00pm |
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hurricane
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Posted: 21 Apr 04 at 5:36pm |
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Both Laser radial and Pico are trying for their boats to be used as womens single hander for 2008, in place of Europe why not use the topper byte is this boat not in the line up of boats that could be trialed |
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Sarah B
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Posted: 21 Apr 04 at 5:47pm |
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This is the link to the submissions made to ISAF for future Olympic classes http://www.sailing.org/meetings/submissions/2004/May04.asp Puzzled that Jon wrote above that antipodean laser spars are stiffer - query then the strict one design? If the Europe isn't chosen again then the re-sale value of my boat will drop and I will be even more broke! |
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Jon Emmett
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Posted: 21 Apr 04 at 6:02pm |
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Regards the Laser, looking at the Spars my UK Upper mast weighs 2.4 KGs and gets very bend when I sail in the upper wind range. The Ozzy boat I chartered came with a Upper mast of 3.0KG and was straight after every race!!! Quite a difference I am assure you will agree... Regards the Europe class. I think the are a lot of cool people in the class but it is those outside the class who view it as Elitest... Regards the Byte I think the reason it is not being tested as an Olympic boat is due to the number of countries it is sailed in.. |
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hurricane
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Posted: 22 Apr 04 at 10:28am |
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but i think the byte is a more popular boat than a laser pico. Also laser already builr one of the chosen boats so shouldn't topper or another boat builder get to build one of the olympic boats?????
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As for the Europe perceived to be elitist - in this country everyone has been brill since I made my swimming entrance to the class - and far from being elitist.|
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