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    Posted: 29 May 06 at 7:28pm
I have always felt that you need a spare kill cord in the boat, so that if the driver goes over the side taking the kill cord with them you have the option to start up again so you can manuver back to them.

I agree on the speed thing it should either be min throttle or get it planing and ease the throttle back to just keep it on the plane.
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you are definately right with the speed thing, not only does mid speed cause massive wake, but its also very un-economic on the fuel front!

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Originally posted by Guest#260

Originally posted by MikeBz

Not sure what killcords have got to do with this?

a) If he/she had been wearing a killcord then he/she would have survived (climbed back in?  Not easy on your own unless you're pretty fit).

b) If he/she had been wearing a killcord then the boat wouldn't have been spotted "taking an unusual course" so soon and hence the alarm would not have been raised so quickly (I'm not suggesting this is a valid argument for not wearing a killcord!).

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Mike,

Lets assume this guy has fallen overboard ... if he had been wearing a kill cord then the RIB stops and he get back in ... which is easy to do if you step up on the ventilation plates.

With no kill cord either the boat circles and runs you down or just motors of without you.

Despite what you say it does look like you are presenting and argument against kill cords ...

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Sorry Rick, never a good idea to post when you've just got back from the pub

I agree that you should always wear the killcord, though it can be a right pain at times e.g. if you're laying/moving marks singlehanded (OK, OK - 'stop the engine' etc.).   I nearly got into trouble at a recent open by turning around and pulling out the killcord at an inopportune moment - strong tide running, holding the rescue boat into the tide on the motor nice and close to the leeward mark so my onboard photographer could get some nice pics of the melee,  accidentally pulled out the killcord and now the tide is sweeping us into the melee too.  Cue some frantic fumbling to get the thing going again.  Don't think we would have been too popular if we hadn't got it going again within few seconds.  Nothing to do with sad case in Holland though.

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Originally posted by MikeBz

Sorry Rick, never a good idea to post when you've just got back from the pub

I don't know what you are on about - post make perfect sense ...

Originally posted by MikeBz

I agree that you should always wear the killcord, though it can be a right pain at times e.g. if you're laying/moving marks singlehanded (OK, OK - 'stop the engine' etc.).   I nearly got into trouble at a recent open by turning around and pulling out the killcord at an inopportune moment - strong tide running, holding the rescue boat into the tide on the motor nice and close to the leeward mark so my onboard photographer could get some nice pics of the melee,  accidentally pulled out the killcord and now the tide is sweeping us into the melee too.  Cue some frantic fumbling to get the thing going again.  Don't think we would have been too popular if we hadn't got it going again within few seconds.  Nothing to do with sad case in Holland though.

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That just looks like another argument against kill cords ...

Yes ... they can be a pain at times but not as much as a pain as they can be if you don't use one.

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Originally posted by Guest#260

I don't know what you are on about - post make perfect sense ...

But not that well considered perhaps...

That just looks like another argument against kill cords ...

It wasn't meant as that,  but whatever.

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Originally posted by MikeBz

Originally posted by Guest#260

I don't know what you are on about - post make perfect sense ...

But not that well considered perhaps...

Completely considered ... I guess we disagree. I think kill cords are a "must use" in all situations regardless of any other issues ...

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Originally posted by Granite

I have always felt that you need a spare kill cord in the boat, so that if the driver goes over the side taking the kill cord with them you have the option to start up again so you can manuver back to them.

I've only come close to full-on panic once (on the water) and that was whilst watching the safety boat driver bobbing about (thoughtfully waving the kill cord at me) whilst I, in the RIB was blown downwind at several knots powerless to start the engine and get him. There should ALWAYS be a spare kill cord somewhere in the boat.

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Our clubs RIB has a switch style killcord, so that if the driver does fall out, then the switch can be pushed back in and the engine be started, obviously now it has no killcord but the engine can still run. A second killcord is always a good idea

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Originally posted by Guest#260

Originally posted by MikeBz

Originally posted by Guest#260

I don't know what you are on about - post make perfect sense ...

But not that well considered perhaps...

Completely considered ... I guess we disagree.

I meant that what I wrote wasn't very well considered by me...  I'll shut up now.

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Originally posted by MikeBz

Originally posted by Guest#260

Originally posted by MikeBz

Originally posted by Guest#260

I don't know what you are on about - post make perfect sense ...

But not that well considered perhaps...

Completely considered ... I guess we disagree.

I meant that what I wrote wasn't very well considered by me...  I'll shut up now.

Mike

Ahhh .. OK.

Killcords on ... lifejackets on ... everyones OK.

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