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The rumor is that Rohans been chatting to the olympic guys about possible selection, and this is a possible OD version of the moth

Personaly, I really hope the moth itself doesnt get selected as I think olympic status would ruin the class.
The Bladerider as a seperate class being selected is an option but im not sure how it will fare when something as similar as the moth gets left behind in development 10 years down the line.
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Originally posted by Isis

The rumor is that Rohans been chatting to the olympic guys about possible selection, and this is a possible OD version of the moth

That is what I read ... bit of a crash diet for the Finn boys ...

I don't really think foiling is a big enough part of our sport to warrant representation in the Games ... buy hey how many people sail Stars.

Anything could happen ....

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I think that olympic sailing needs some excitement, it seems that TV interest may be a prerequisite for any sport these days.

Isn't that Rohan's Fastacraft Prowler all over the KA site, does not seem right to use another builders boat to promote their own product, is that legal?

I am not sure you should believe the hype being put out there.

 

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Rohan has been responsible for a lot of KAs sail development, hence why his boat is pictured
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From the website

 

Suits Any Sailor. The KA Bladerider is an ultra light-weight boat with no trapeze or spinnaker making it easier to rig and sail than any other dinghy. Hydrofoil sailing ensures that the advantages of higher sailing weight and physical strength are effectively countered by early, faster speeds achieved by lighter weight sailors. The Bladerider is able to provide a true open-class event in which sailors over a broad range of weights and strengths can be competitive. Men, women and youths are able to compete on an equal basis in the same events with the same equipment.

Surely this cannot be correct?.  The aim will be to get foiling as soon as poss so you will want to be the lightest sailor possible who can pull the main in. 

Once foiling the torque (for want of a better word) required to drive the boat forward is low, so (I assume) there is less heeling pressure in the sail as the sail will be flatter (and healed to windward) as you only need power to get up on the foils.

 

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Originally posted by Scooby_simon

From the website

 

Suits Any Sailor. The KA Bladerider is an ultra light-weight boat with no trapeze or spinnaker making it easier to rig and sail than any other dinghy. Hydrofoil sailing ensures that the advantages of higher sailing weight and physical strength are effectively countered by early, faster speeds achieved by lighter weight sailors. The Bladerider is able to provide a true open-class event in which sailors over a broad range of weights and strengths can be competitive. Men, women and youths are able to compete on an equal basis in the same events with the same equipment.

Surely this cannot be correct?.  The aim will be to get foiling as soon as poss so you will want to be the lightest sailor possible who can pull the main in. 

Once foiling the torque (for want of a better word) required to drive the boat forward is low, so (I assume) there is less heeling pressure in the sail as the sail will be flatter (and healed to windward) as you only need power to get up on the foils.

I guess they are trying to deal with the weight issue but in marginal foiling conditions helm weight is has to be a huge factor ...

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just so you know sam pasco who has just got the moth speed record of 26.3 knots is 80kg!
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Originally posted by bovlike

just so you know sam pasco who has just got the moth speed record of 26.3 knots is 80kg!

No doubt weight is less of an issue once up and running but in the marginal stuff the light weights will be well away ...

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I agree with those above that you should not believe some of the hype being put out here.

Comments like the shape of the Bladerider is an advancement over the Hungry Tiger and Prowler. Bold comments for a hull that I believe has not even hit the water yet. Certainly not proven hulls like the Hungry Tiger or Prowler which are built by boat builders who have built 90% of the moth fleet in the past 10 years. I also don't believe Andrew Mcdougall has built a single moth in the past 10 years.

The wording on this site is fairly misleading for the uninformed.

I think the warranty being offered is a reflection of an unproven/untested product. I think these guys are a long way from having a proven and tested product such as the Hungry Tiger or Prowler.

Buyer beware.

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