Rossiter Pintail Mortagne sur Gironde, near Bordeaux |
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Laser 28 - Excellent example of this great design Hamble le rice |
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Laser 140101 Tynemouth |
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i14 vs 49er etc... |
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49erGBR735HSC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
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Have to emphasise the point that communication issues on skiffs are a major problem. If you are going to argue on the water, you won't do much sailing and a lot of swimming. High Performance skiffs don't give you the time to argue on the water so either address the issues before jumping into classes, start sailing with other people or go down the single-handed route. If you can't speak to each other when things go wrong, it will all end in tears............ |
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29er397 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Feb 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 505 |
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I think someone may missed the point here - we are not sailing together after this season, Tom (bro and crew) is going to sail with his old helm (who he sailed an 800 with last season) whilst I get a 600 till i can get the funds for a musto (long time yet
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29er397 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Feb 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 505 |
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If a mum and dad are buying their kids a musto and a 700 - they must be spoilt little brats!!!!!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Edited by 29er397 |
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mike ellis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339 |
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theres nothing wrong with a good shouting at your crew as long as it is after the race. if you think you've got problems try sailing with a sister whos as stubborn as a mule and is scared of the kite
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
Also International 14, 1318 |
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skiffyskiferson ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 05 May 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 18 |
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[/QUOTE] Re comparisons, as others have said, there's not much between a 14 and a 49er for speed. Those who've sailed both say the 14, being shorter and narrower, feels friskier (even with a t-foil). The 14s are allegedly more fun socially (none of those over-intense wannabee Olympic types). You need to decide for yourself if you like [/QUOTE]hi guys your dead right, communication is key, especially in skiffs and that is why me and fergus are splitting up but me and paul have a fantastic sailing relationship and perform well together. thats a good piont about the social side aswell because realy serious people suck the fun out of sailing ![]() if we buy a fully sorted bieker 3 it should stay pretty up to date for a couple of years???yes??? we also love to change things around and try out new things o see how the boat sails best. something which is a real restriction in the 49er and 800! ps the friskier and faster the better. pps which is the hardest to tack and gybe??? cheers tom |
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Granite ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 May 04 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 476 |
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A beiker 3 should be good for a few years, you may need some new sails in that time but what boat would not.
I think in some ways the 14 will be more difficult to manuver than the 49er. As the 14 is quite narrow you need to be on the wire for your weight to have much effect, wheras on the 9er just being out on the wing gives a lot of RM. But in a lot of ways they are the same, the rig is the boss |
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If it doesn't break it's too heavy; if it does it wasn't built right
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bovlike ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 221 |
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I think the 14 is harder to tack as it is so small. A beiker 3 would be a good boat but you would want one with a self tacker for the jib as the first beiker 3s had a normal jib system. There are some good morison 10/11 up for sale now for about 5 grand. they would be on the pace.
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Ian (Bov) Turnbull
18ft Skiff Ronstan UK Chandlery, tapered ropes and specialist solutions for sailors who demand the best - BovBoats.co.uk |
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49erGBR735HSC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
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Have a look at this link http://www.scottishskiffracing.com/for%20sale.htm . Gavin's 14 is a really good one, think it's Morrison 10, not the one he's sold but the one he's putting on the market. John's 49er is a good boat too. |
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Strawberry ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Jun 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1337 |
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I would reccomend a B2 over a B3 as it's proven faster. The B4 was a step back towards the B2 design.
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Cherub 2649 "Dangerous Strawberry
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skiffyskiferson ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 05 May 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 18 |
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ok guys i think we are decided that the 14 is the best boat for us although its quite a difficult choice of boat to get!!! we are looking for a sensible priced boat probably in the region of 7k. i have looked at the website and read alot about them but it is hard to find info on which are the best designs, what to look for and what to avoid. if anyone has any hints or tips i would love to here them! (bov-you look like a bit of an expert)
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