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damp_freddie 
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 Topic: The World's best race boatPosted: 10 Apr 06 at 2:41pm |
I hate string- even on a basic-ish 505 I hate it. Sheets, kicket, cunnigham outhaul. Nuff. IMHO it belongs to the pre kevlar, carbon generation who liked it in their vests as well.  EAch to their own...no offensive meant |
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billpayer
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Posted: 31 Mar 06 at 9:41am |
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Like all of these 'best of' surveys, there are winners and loosers. The I14 is an exceptional boat, but you cannot race it with smaller crews, ie children, so for those people its not going to be the best race boat. But overall it won so round of applause for the I14. But in the real world, with us real people, what realy is the best boat/race boat. I think and hope it's the one you either sail now or the one you want next. We all want to make the best or our own current boat and aspiring to our 'next' race boat is something a lot of us work for. Hopefully it turns out right, I know it turns out expensive........... If you are NOT saving/dreaming for you next race boat, then maybe the one you have now is best, but it might not register in international surveys, but do we mind?
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charlie w
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Posted: 31 Mar 06 at 12:11am |
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Nah - wasn't aware that anyone had attempted anything like that before. Of course - once you change the weights, the floatation lines all change - I just liked the idea of something with a light keel that would just about surf upwind and probably have way too much canvas for the downwind stuff. Tempestish/A-raterish/Flying 15ish, but with more kick Anyhow, nuff on that. CW
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Quality never goes out of fashion.
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mike ellis
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Posted: 30 Mar 06 at 4:20pm |
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does that mean you own this 15/18 thing?
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
Also International 14, 1318 |
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NeilP
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Posted: 30 Mar 06 at 12:00pm |
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Charlie - you'd be very welcome, as would anyone else who fancies it. PM me if you have a free weekend Neil |
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No FD? No Comment!
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Chris 249
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Posted: 30 Mar 06 at 5:25am |
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Charlie, it sounds like you want the old boat of Sean Langman (of Open
60 AAPT/Xena/Grundig fame). Sean was a Flying 15 champ who also won the
Star nats and did well in 18s. So he grabbed an old 15, put some lovely
high-aspect foils and racks on the hull, dropped a Star mast and some
18 Footer sails in, and went racing....Cool little boat.
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charlie w
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Posted: 29 Mar 06 at 10:57pm |
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I'm happy to come guest in an FD anytime. They still are one of the alltime greats. --------------- Okay - here is my vote for the mixed design boat. Flying Fifteen and 18 foot skiff. Ditch half of the keel weight, and add a vertical rudderblade. Massive Symetrical kite, as we want this to be a boat with some challenges for the crew...! Probably some integral (non-scaffold) stubby wings that compliment the lines and design (rather than make it look like a building site). Lose the foredeck and apply a self tacker to the jib. probably 3 crew - with 2 trapezing although you would probably want to make the hulls about 3 feet longer to allow it to carry the extra weight. Chas W Edited by charlie w |
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bovlike
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Posted: 28 Mar 06 at 11:02pm |
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I sail musto skiffs(202 ronstan), i14's (1522 Ronstan) and an 18(barron & smithers henri lloyd) because I like going fast! sometimes with friends other times by my self. simple realy And the 14 is the best of the 3 |
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Ian (Bov) Turnbull
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mike ellis
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i sail a feva. good points: the hull is durable, its great in waves and wind. tacks like a dream easy to learn in. just right weight on helm unless its on its ear. oh yeh the sailors nice too. good open calendar cos of rs association. great training in the winter.there must be more. bad points: needs a crew (most people anyway but i can manage it in f3-4), kites to small, im too fat for it. hulls are plastic so not stiff. the older ones have a habit of snapping in 3 at the transom. and anything else you lot can think of. |
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
Also International 14, 1318 |
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Ellie
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Posted: 28 Mar 06 at 1:52pm |
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yey. merlin rocket! they are just gorgeous boats to sail! plenty of string, very tactical racing, salcombe week and nats (2 weeks on a beach!), brilliant socials, great feel to the boat in all cond around the whole race course, amazing in breeze and waves and come on, what more can u want in the world than a one string raking system?! its brilliant! and u can get an old boat and still be comp whatever people might say! i've sailed 45 yr old boats and won so... bad sides, uk only- no sunny worlds in feb to cheer u up. not to big a fleet in scotland (where im going to uni so...) and a new one can be pretty pricey (but with a bit of love and care they hold thier value quite well) thats what i think anyhoo Edited by Ellie |
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