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    Posted: 01 Apr 06 at 9:04am
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I don't think anyone who has sailed Cats, Skiffs and small Firefly like boats would say that any of them are easier to win in, but they are VERY different. When travelling at 15 knots you are obviously going to loose more in the tacks, even in a well designed cat, than you are in a dinghy doing 3 knots. The skills are therefore different, but I don't think anyone in their right mind would try and say one is easier than the other.

As for the speed differences, how about Int 14 v's Hobie 14?!
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Originally posted by Tornado_ALIVE

Originally posted by allanorton

Cats look depressing to sail, reaching around everywhere with main pulled in tight.  I would sooner give up sailing than sail a cat, just my opinion.

Sorry mate, but this is a perfect example of a totaly uneducated comment.

And what basis are you making this comment.....

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Originally posted by allanorton

Originally posted by Tornado_ALIVE

Originally posted by allanorton

Cats look depressing to sail, reaching around everywhere with main pulled in tight.  I would sooner give up sailing than sail a cat, just my opinion.

Sorry mate, but this is a perfect example of a totaly uneducated comment.

And what basis are you making this comment.....

get back on the multi hull section where i don't have to look at you - just so depressing

 

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Question Allan......  On what basis are you making your comments.

Have you go anything?????
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Personaly, Ive never sailed a cat... whilst I wouldnt refuse a go if it was offered they just dont really appeal to me.
Im not a cat person... But I dont understand how anyone can make comments like that claiming they arent fun. They might not be your cup of tea, but im sure a lot of cat sailors feel the same about what you sail and blasting about at cat-type speeds is going to be fun whatever your sailing. Even in a 4k, alex.
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Originally posted by Isis

Personaly, Ive never sailed a cat... whilst I wouldnt refuse a go if it was offered they just dont really appeal to me.
Im not a cat person... But I dont understand how anyone can make comments like that claiming they arent fun. They might not be your cup of tea, but im sure a lot of cat sailors feel the same about what you sail and blasting about at cat-type speeds is going to be fun whatever your sailing. Even in a 4k, alex.

 

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Whilst I've never owned a cat I have been for a blast in them,and that was fun (4 miles across a bay was scarey but fun !) they just aren't what I'd want to race in.At our club we have quite a few that tear around our lake a breakneck speeds and they always seem to be having fun.Personally I just prefer monohulls.

Oh and when Scooby Simon goes past me in his Inter it is frustrating but hey.... thats life

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Originally posted by Dead Air

As a generalisation (and its a big one!) I think that the faster dinghys go, the less tactical the racing beomes, even more so with cats.


When your going slower, and can tack/gype compartivly faster, you can take advantage of changes in wind direction much more effectivly, as well as sailing the fleet more closely.


Once you start getting into boat speed sailing, you just have to decide which corner you want to sail into, and hope you got it right!


Both require their own individual set of skills and techniques, and have differing positive and negative points, but on balance (and this is a personal opinion), I prefer the tactical sailing


This argument drives me through the roof. It is used by those who have not sailed a high performance boat of any kind, one hull, multi, with or without lead, to justify why slow boat racing is somehow more pure. Though you may not tack on every tiny shift, all tactics still apply. It is true that until you master the boat, you spend more time with your head in the boat and maybe you are less tactical but once you are past that, you spend just as much time on tactics as slower boats. Good tactics can still win the day.
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Originally posted by les5269

Oh and when Scooby Simon goes past me in his Inter it is frustrating but hey.... thats life

   

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