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Isis 
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 Topic: Best of show...Posted: 08 Mar 06 at 5:30pm |
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Well, wont be too long (hopefully) before we figure out whether it works on cherubs too...
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bovlike
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Posted: 08 Mar 06 at 5:23pm |
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on the 14 the crew has the main any time the kite is not up! The helm has the jib and changes the trim of it for waves gusts and lulls and a small ease for the tacks. |
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Ian (Bov) Turnbull
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tgruitt
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Posted: 08 Mar 06 at 1:45pm |
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yeah, crew takes mainsheet upwind, jib stays at the front in cleat. Light winds crew takes main and tacks, light/med helm takes main so crew can monkey in and out, anything more crew takes main and gives back to helm when tacking so can let jib off and grab main when going back out on trapeze. Simple.
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JimC
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Posted: 08 Mar 06 at 11:41am |
Some do and some don't. The percentage with the crew taking the main has increased steadily since we first got the idea of the Aussies in '74. |
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timnoyce
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Posted: 08 Mar 06 at 11:25am |
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I think that there are a few factors to consider here, chiefly, whether the boat has a self tacking jib and also the wind strength. My boat doesn't have a self tacker so the crew needs to attend to the jib sheets but this is what I do... Light Wind - Helm takes the main so that you can get more control (and also the crew is sat in a foetal position crammed between the kicker and lowers) Medium Wind - Crew takes the main and gets on the wire, they are responsible for trimming the sheet and keeping the boat flat. Helm takes the jib but generally not much need to feather the jib as we don't often get overpowered. Strong Wind - Helm and crew both on wire, in foot straps, gripping with toes and hoping for the best. Crew takes main, Helm takes the jib (mainly as something else to hold on to!) Due to the fact that the Helm is on the transom and the jib cleat is at the front of the cockpit uncleating isn't easy so takes a special technique! It can pay for a particularly skilled crew to take the main and the jib but that takes a bit of practice. |
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timnoyce
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Posted: 08 Mar 06 at 9:36am |
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I think that the elastic trapeze ropes will be very handy as it will bring the hook up to a more manageable level when it comes to hooking on, especially if it is windy and you are down on your knots. I am looking forward to testing its suspension qualities too! My old trapeze ropes had a very small amount of stretch to start with (probably less than a centimetre) but that felt quite cool when u stepped out as it was like a damper! With bungy in waves it could be a whole new sensation!
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bovlike
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Posted: 08 Mar 06 at 9:04am |
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the JIB sheet is lead back to the helms man as he is the one that uses it! It is a standard thing on all the Ovington 14's. The RMW boats have it at the front. but when it is windy I need to crack the jib before the tack and sheet on again after it. When it is at the back it does not impead the crew, if it was at the front and I was holding it behind the crew he would trip up on it. Makes sense to me. The trapeze thing as you call it was copyed from Chris and Simon's Olimpic 49er so there must be something in it. I have not tried them but we thought we would give it a go we can always take them off if we dont like them. If you dont try something new how do you move forward? |
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Ian (Bov) Turnbull
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tgruitt
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Posted: 08 Mar 06 at 8:24am |
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firstly I think the job sheet in the middle of the boat is a bit silly, I would want it at the front where it should be! and the bungee trapeze things are awfull! I would hate to clip on and then have it drop a few inches as i went out. I dont see why anyone would do that? can someone explain??
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bovlike
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Posted: 08 Mar 06 at 8:00am |
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Thanks for the photos tim. Last time I saw her she had no deck on! The trapeze line is like andy said I took the core out of of the rope and put the shokcord in. I have not tryed it yet but I have seen 49ers using it so we are going to give it a go. a litle worryed about it not uncliping when I stand up to tack. We have the jib cleat so far back in the boat so I can hold onto the sheet during tacks and I do not trip the crew up. Andy what is wrong with the front of her?? I am not to worryed about how it looks as most people will only see the stern!!!!! |
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Ian (Bov) Turnbull
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andy_cherub
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Posted: 08 Mar 06 at 12:04am |
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Oh and Tim, I believe you can buy that shock-cord rope, or if not the way they do it is to spend ages runnin shokcord thru the rope, replacing the core. Personally ill do what I did on my A class, just put a lil micro block on the bottom of the trapeze jammer and run the normal shock cord up to that and then onto the trapeze ring. Thus pulling the ring to the jammer - and then u pull it down, hook on and it actually stays there! Not sure id want it on a cherub - I now like to be able to come on and move unhook easily! lol
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