Best of show...
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Category: Dinghy classes
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Topic: Best of show...
Posted By: Iain C
Subject: Best of show...
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 8:06am
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For me it has to be... 1. Ovington I14-just utterly gorgeous and some really clever fit out ideas 2. Paintcraft Contender-so nice I really could not sail it, imagine dragging a hook across that deck! 3. Redeye Solution-not in the same league as the 14 but for a first go really well thought out and a quality of finish much better than some other SMODS, I hope it does really well. Cheers Iain ------------- RS700 GBR922 "Wirespeed" Fireball GBR14474 "Eleven Parsecs" Enterprise GBR21970 Bavaria 32 GBR4755L "Adastra" |
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Posted By: tack'ho
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 9:00am
For us poor bas****s who live too far away from the centre of the world, sorry London lets have some nice pictures to drool over please.------------- I might be sailing it, but it's still sh**e! |
Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 9:51am
I agree. The Ovi int 14 was really something special, i also thought the Aardvark national 12 looked pretty damn cool aswell.....I was quite intrigued by seeing the 12 foot skiff association there this year....no boat sadly but hopefully next year .------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 10:43am
Out of the whole show this has to be my favourite part.... The focus point on the mirror was supposed to be the new tin mast, but this did not go un-noticed! Does anyone know if this is class legal? I would have thought that advanced composites were banned in a class like the mirror. Brilliant  ------------- http://www.facebook.com/bearfootdesign - BEARFOOT DESIGN Cherub 2648 - Comfortably Numb |
Posted By: tack'ho
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 10:59am
never mind if its banned, whats the point? I'm not sure it'll make any real difference to the pitching moment of boat ------------- I might be sailing it, but it's still sh**e! |
Posted By: Rust
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 12:17pm
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I agree that it was the best thing at the show, but I am biased as it was my son's boat on display. The hoop is legal as there is no "exotics" rules for the mirror. I actually made it myself by wet laying up some carbon around a bike innner tube; and it cost next to nothing to make. Although it hardly weighs anything, I agree it has no advantage over other solutions typically used, i.e a wooden hoop, or a fibreglass shute, but I think, and the comments seem to confirm this, that it looks better, and that was the main point when I made it!
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Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 12:27pm
Well hats off to you sir... I was very impressed. Much better than the carbon floor plate on the flying 15!! Did you brown parcel tape the inner tube at all before you laid up around it or is it still inside? Just thinking that the technique could be usefull in the new build... ------------- http://www.facebook.com/bearfootdesign - BEARFOOT DESIGN Cherub 2648 - Comfortably Numb |
Posted By: Rust
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 12:42pm
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the lay up was Inner tube,half inflated then spayed with WD40, then 3 layers of 50mm carbon fibre strips epoxy wound around the tube, then wrapped in nylon cloth, then cling film, then pump up the tube. Strip everything off then rub down and varnished with2 pot to make it shiny. Got the idea from a friend who makes F1 steering wheels- but these cost a few quid more!
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Posted By: tack'ho
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 12:47pm
Ahh well if its there to look good! I have to admit it does look quite 'trick' ------------- I might be sailing it, but it's still sh**e! |
Posted By: rogerd
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 1:22pm
| Reminds me of the first chute on my Mirror as a boy. my paper round wouldnt stretch to fancy fibreglass chutes so i made one out of a babys potty with the bottom cut out. Worked a treat. |
Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 1:28pm
hmmm, very ingenious indeed. I like the way that as you inflate the tube it helps to force any excess resin out of the lay up. Either that or i could just buy an F1 steering wheel and trim to fit... ------------- http://www.facebook.com/bearfootdesign - BEARFOOT DESIGN Cherub 2648 - Comfortably Numb |
Posted By: Prince Buster
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 1:33pm
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Best in Show...... Sounds like crufts ------------- international moth - "what what?" |
Posted By: Simon Lovesey
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 1:37pm
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The spinnaker chute is not part of the hull so not constrained by those particular rules. Phil's boat illustrated nicely one of the appeals of the Mirror, although a one design there is enormous scope for personalisation in fit out and some construction elements. It was great to see such a beautifully presented home built Mirror, Phil built this boat for his son last year, and was able to put a competitive race spec boat on the water for £2700, including a professional spray paint job, for less than the cost of an 'off the shelf' FRP Mirror. Significantly this was the first boat Phil has built. Yes the new all alloy Bermudan rig attracted enormous interest, and is sure to build on the resurgence in interest we are experiencing within the Mirror class. Simon Lovesey |
Posted By: tack'ho
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 2:46pm
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Sadly it's functionality as a potty wasn't equally enhanced ------------- I might be sailing it, but it's still sh**e! |
Posted By: allanorton
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 3:14pm
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The 14 & assymetric canoe get my vote. ------------- |
Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 4:20pm
The best in show I think has to go to the guy in pinstripe suit and bowler hat. Very very amusing. And stood out a lot being 6' and all. ------------- http://theramblingsofmyinnergeek.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 4:32pm
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Anyone got any pictures of Graham Eele's new Tornado design ? ------------- Wanna learn to Ski - PM me.. |
Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 5:43pm
i got some pictures of parts of the tornado but not the whole thing.... Definitely the coolest mast at the show. Anyone know roughly how much one costs?!  That kite chute just looks aggressive. Bet thats not cheap either... ------------- http://www.facebook.com/bearfootdesign - BEARFOOT DESIGN Cherub 2648 - Comfortably Numb |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 5:46pm
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I spent a long long time ogling at the ovi 14.. very trick indeed The AC got quite a bit of attention from me too and was nice to have a decent look at the new tasar rig The cherub deserves a mention too.. hats of to will and lucy for getting it finished in time ------------- |
Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 5:55pm
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2976 Euro (ex VAT Fully rigged including spreaders etc). ------------- Wanna learn to Ski - PM me.. |
Posted By: hurricane
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 5:57pm
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that tornado is being used by team walsh-barney at the moment there is some pics on there site http://www.teamwalsh-barney.com/index.php?option=com_zoom&Itemid=39&page=view&catid=16&PageNo=1&key=5&hit=1 - http://www.teamwalsh-barney.com/index.php?option=com_zoom&am p;am p;Itemid=39&page=view&catid=16&PageNo=1&key= 5&hit=1 the whole gallery - http://www.teamwalsh-barney.com/index.php?option=com_zoom&Itemid=39&catid=16 - http://www.teamwalsh-barney.com/index.php?option=com_zoom&am p;am p;Itemid=39&catid=16 oh and for the shute thats a standard tornado shute made by the guy that built that boat ------------- lifes to short to sail slow boats! RIP Olympic Tornado 1976-2007 |
Posted By: hurricane
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 5:59pm
just dont tap the spreaders with a hammer to adjust them like you can do with alloy ones! they explode! (i didnt do that btw just heard about it) ------------- lifes to short to sail slow boats! RIP Olympic Tornado 1976-2007 |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 6:20pm
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[THINKS]Note to self... do not hit carbon with hammer[/THINKS]
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Posted By: Granite
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 6:30pm
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What was so trick about the Ovi 14? Any new gadgets or was it just super shiny? ------------- If it doesn't break it's too heavy; if it does it wasn't built right |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 6:37pm
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Nothing particularly special but just generaly very well thought out
and brand spanking new. A couple of nifty little features like leading
the jib sheet back to a swivel jammer in the middle of the cockpit
which im blatently nicking for the cherub too...
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Posted By: nathan
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 6:57pm
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You mean like they've had in a 49er for almost 10 years?? Not recent technology unless I've misenterpreted what you've said. Nothing particularly grabbed me this year. New tasar looked good. Solo video was awful... showing them wallowing around in no wind- not a marketing tool! Convience of the car parking is appreciated though- much easier/ cheaper than LBS. |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 7:14pm
Last time I checked the 9er, along with almost all other boats with self tackers had the jammer just behind the mast. Im talking about the middle of the cockpit, ie undernieth where the mainsheet is taken off the boom ------------- |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 7:18pm
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My bad... just had a look and the 9ers looks a lot further back than normal but still in front of the crew for normal sailing ------------- |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 7:58pm
yer but in the 14 dont u stand alot futher back anyways cos the boat is so short?  the rachte block they had on the boom looked quite cool------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 8:19pm
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what? in light winds you sit at the front in a 14, at the front in a 9er, at the front in a cherub. in big winds you stand at the back in a 14, at the back in a 9er, at the back in a cherub. ------------- |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 8:25pm
yer but in the sort of conditions were u will be at the back it will help? i am getting confused------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 8:26pm
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yeah I think you are lad..
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Posted By: les5269
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 8:38pm
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back on subject I fell in love with the Bonazzi Contender it was gorgeous (not sure if Bonazzi is spelt right! ------------- 49er 531 & 5000 5025 and a mirror(now gone to mirror heaven)! http://www.grafham.org/" rel="nofollow - Grafham water Sailing Club The greatest inland sailing in the country |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 8:44pm
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yer i did look grovvy. i liked the contrast between the orange and the lovely wood ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 8:49pm
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both the contenders were looking great actualy... I was seriously unimpressed by the m4 prototype though, spent a while looking at it and its just not a patch on the moths class. It will open up foiling to a wider range of people but it stirkes me it was developed by someone who looked at a moth from a distance and attemped to improve it. Anyone oggling at Rohan Veals new graphiced-up moth on the ronstan stand might be interested to know it was actualy Si Proppers boat mocked up to look like Rohans. ------------- |
Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 8:52pm
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Yeah espesh since our cadet is made out of similar wood and have finaly found one of the builders is a friends dad. ------------- http://theramblingsofmyinnergeek.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: laser47
Date Posted: 06 Mar 06 at 9:26pm
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the moths did look really good. bit of a poor effort from the europe and the solo in my opinion ------------- |
Posted By: tickel
Date Posted: 07 Mar 06 at 12:32am
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Was it my imagination or did there seem to be little interest in the laser stand? Is it possible that sailors are becoming bored with them? RS 300's are becoming very popular and Hartley Laminates are struggling to keep up with the demand for the lovely Super Nova. Tasar looks very modern with its new sails and when I'm younger I want a B14. Oldmanjohn
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Posted By: Blobby
Date Posted: 07 Mar 06 at 3:22am
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Totally off at a tangent here - but using the same fitting...for those who want off the boom sheeting and cleating I have actually whipped up a bracket and fitted a swivel jammer onto the underside of the boom on my 29er (totally against class rules I know) and it works a treat - very handy for when you run out of hands to hold all the bits of string with briefly. Need to move the ratchet block to the transom hawse as well and use an auto ratchet to keep it all running freely. Anyway - I will crawl back under my rock again now. |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 07 Mar 06 at 12:43pm
There never is. Everyone knows what they look like and it only takes a few minutes to order one. Betcha they sold more boats there than anyone else. |
Posted By: tack'ho
Date Posted: 07 Mar 06 at 12:48pm
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OK, nailing my Colours to the mast here! Did anyone even notice the Byte on the topper stand? Was there one? what did the Lightning and Supernova stands look like?
ps. why do you only notice spelling mistakes just after you press the post button ------------- I might be sailing it, but it's still sh**e! |
Posted By: Strawberry
Date Posted: 07 Mar 06 at 12:52pm
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I saw the Byte stand, look's like it's everything the Laer wasn't.
------------- Cherub 2649 "Dangerous Strawberry |
Posted By: tack'ho
Date Posted: 07 Mar 06 at 1:39pm
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Just needs a bit more publicity. It is such a better boat than the laser radial and 4.7 especially with the new rig. ------------- I might be sailing it, but it's still sh**e! |
Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 07 Mar 06 at 1:48pm
Oh ... if it were that simple ... ------------- |
Posted By: tack'ho
Date Posted: 07 Mar 06 at 1:52pm
la la la I'm not listening, I don't want the truth, I can't handle the truth ------------- I might be sailing it, but it's still sh**e! |
Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 07 Mar 06 at 5:58pm
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i liked the IC stand. the guy there said he thought the 29erxx was going to flex and turn into a bendy lump of glass but he would say that. ICs are built like brike sh1t houses. ------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318 |
Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 07 Mar 06 at 6:08pm
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I was personally a little disappointed with the 29erX. The intense development that has gone into it has been truely remarkable though... The 2 fairleads screwed into the kick bars to accomodate the second wire is a touch of genius, and the fact they have gone to the extent of changing the colour of the sails to differ from the 59er is something special. I can't help but think that the design has been compromised heavily just to make use of what they have already got. Its a bodge job on a student budget cherub scale I feel..... ------------- http://www.facebook.com/bearfootdesign - BEARFOOT DESIGN Cherub 2648 - Comfortably Numb |
Posted By: Jamie600
Date Posted: 07 Mar 06 at 6:29pm
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Anyone see the 600 on show? That was my boat!!!
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Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 07 Mar 06 at 6:34pm
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You are a very lucky boy..... I spent a while checking that beast out. Bit of a difference in condition between that and the one i sailed for a while! I personally think that it puts the 700 to shame as it just looks so much more refined! All in all a better looking boat. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/bearfootdesign - BEARFOOT DESIGN Cherub 2648 - Comfortably Numb |
Posted By: Prince Buster
Date Posted: 07 Mar 06 at 6:36pm
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Really!!!? I was thinking how neat and tidy it was compared to my
boat!!! And how somple everything looked on it!! Even took a
quick vid of it on my phone to help with mine lol
------------- international moth - "what what?" |
Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 07 Mar 06 at 6:37pm
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the 700 looks too cluttered i think. the mps has a much simpler layout. but the 600 is very nice. ------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318 |
Posted By: Calum_Reid
Date Posted: 07 Mar 06 at 6:39pm
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there is a really sorted light blue 600 at my club it looks superb.
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Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 07 Mar 06 at 6:41pm
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An RS600 upwind in the groove is something special. Not sailed anything else quite like it. Looks great in the pics with its nice clean lines too...
------------- http://www.facebook.com/bearfootdesign - BEARFOOT DESIGN Cherub 2648 - Comfortably Numb |
Posted By: ColH
Date Posted: 07 Mar 06 at 8:35pm
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And the elasticated trapeze ropes. If you didn't see it you'll be wondering what the hell I mean!
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Posted By: HannahJ
Date Posted: 07 Mar 06 at 8:36pm
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Yes that mirror was lovely, I spent a long time talking to you Rust, I think Not sure about the one piece mast though, but I'll keep that to the mirror forum ------------- MIRROR 64799 "Dolphin" The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist hopes it will change; the realist adjusts the sail |
Posted By: ColH
Date Posted: 07 Mar 06 at 8:37pm
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Did you notice the perhaps ironic (BMW) "M3" badges on the bows of the Moth?
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Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 07 Mar 06 at 8:56pm
I did indeed... the new central wand was looking very tidy too ------------- |
Posted By: Villan
Date Posted: 07 Mar 06 at 10:14pm
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My favourite part has to be the RS Stand .. it was active every time i walked past it. Unlike the laser stand (which was set up exactly as last year (probably to the exact centimeter) which seemed rather empty (and surrounded by cat's) Spent a lot of time at the RS Stand .. and have decided on a Vareo now :) The Moth looked nice, but I think the M5 (correct number?) stand should have been closer too it. It was good to see the Finns and Phantoms side-by-side .. That Finn looked pretty sleek with that deck :P ------------- Vareo - 149 "Secrets" http://www.TandyUKServers.co.uk" rel="nofollow - TandyUK Servers |
Posted By: bovlike
Date Posted: 07 Mar 06 at 10:47pm
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Thanks for all you have said about the 14 I am the lucky one who gets to helm her this year for the owner Adam Ovington. The coolest bit on the boat I think is the supper slim boom and the low lead ratchet block for the main! Not sure what else looks good on the boat as I have not seen it for a mounth. has any one got any pics of her? cant wait to take her out for a sail Cheers Bov ------------- Ian (Bov) Turnbull 18ft Skiff Ronstan UK http://www.ianturnbullmarine.co.uk - Chandlery, tapered ropes and specialist solutions for sailors who demand the best - BovBoats.co.uk |
Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 07 Mar 06 at 11:26pm
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"And the elasticated trapeze ropes. If you didn't see it you'll be wondering what the hell I mean!" I saw them and they were very clever, seems to solve a lot of trapezing problems in one simple step! I am DEFS putting them on my boat. If someone has any insight into exactly how they were made (as i think I'm right in saying they don't come off the shelf like that) then I am all ears! The super slim boom was a work of art. I liked that a lot...   ...along with just about every other feature of the boat....   A very cool boat indeed. Sorry I didn't take any photos of whole boats. My degree makes me focus on the technical details so I have a blinkered view on life! ------------- http://www.facebook.com/bearfootdesign - BEARFOOT DESIGN Cherub 2648 - Comfortably Numb |
Posted By: andy_cherub
Date Posted: 08 Mar 06 at 12:00am
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Yer that 14 did look nice - not so sure about the front of it though............ & Wills Cherub - lukin sexi I may add!!! Atum Bom certainly is just that! And the 12ft skiff stand, yup - I now also have my name down and bringing one into England, so Aquas on the market! ------------- -12ft skiff, Team 'CST Composites' -Many thanks goes out to all of my sponsors. Ignore my user name, my views are of a 12ft skiff |
At least this time im selling a cherub for a greater cause, and not a 49er again! hehe!!Posted By: andy_cherub
Date Posted: 08 Mar 06 at 12:04am
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Oh and Tim, I believe you can buy that shock-cord rope, or if not the way they do it is to spend ages runnin shokcord thru the rope, replacing the core. Personally ill do what I did on my A class, just put a lil micro block on the bottom of the trapeze jammer and run the normal shock cord up to that and then onto the trapeze ring. Thus pulling the ring to the jammer - and then u pull it down, hook on and it actually stays there! Not sure id want it on a cherub - I now like to be able to come on and move unhook easily! lol ------------- -12ft skiff, Team 'CST Composites' -Many thanks goes out to all of my sponsors. Ignore my user name, my views are of a 12ft skiff |
Posted By: bovlike
Date Posted: 08 Mar 06 at 8:00am
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Thanks for the photos tim. Last time I saw her she had no deck on! The trapeze line is like andy said I took the core out of of the rope and put the shokcord in. I have not tryed it yet but I have seen 49ers using it so we are going to give it a go. a litle worryed about it not uncliping when I stand up to tack. We have the jib cleat so far back in the boat so I can hold onto the sheet during tacks and I do not trip the crew up. Andy what is wrong with the front of her?? I am not to worryed about how it looks as most people will only see the stern!!!!! ------------- Ian (Bov) Turnbull 18ft Skiff Ronstan UK http://www.ianturnbullmarine.co.uk - Chandlery, tapered ropes and specialist solutions for sailors who demand the best - BovBoats.co.uk |
Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 08 Mar 06 at 8:24am
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firstly I think the job sheet in the middle of the boat is a bit silly, I would want it at the front where it should be! and the bungee trapeze things are awfull! I would hate to clip on and then have it drop a few inches as i went out. I dont see why anyone would do that? can someone explain??
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Posted By: bovlike
Date Posted: 08 Mar 06 at 9:04am
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the JIB sheet is lead back to the helms man as he is the one that uses it! It is a standard thing on all the Ovington 14's. The RMW boats have it at the front. but when it is windy I need to crack the jib before the tack and sheet on again after it. When it is at the back it does not impead the crew, if it was at the front and I was holding it behind the crew he would trip up on it. Makes sense to me. The trapeze thing as you call it was copyed from Chris and Simon's Olimpic 49er so there must be something in it. I have not tried them but we thought we would give it a go we can always take them off if we dont like them. If you dont try something new how do you move forward? ------------- Ian (Bov) Turnbull 18ft Skiff Ronstan UK http://www.ianturnbullmarine.co.uk - Chandlery, tapered ropes and specialist solutions for sailors who demand the best - BovBoats.co.uk |
Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 08 Mar 06 at 9:36am
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I think that the elastic trapeze ropes will be very handy as it will bring the hook up to a more manageable level when it comes to hooking on, especially if it is windy and you are down on your knots. I am looking forward to testing its suspension qualities too! My old trapeze ropes had a very small amount of stretch to start with (probably less than a centimetre) but that felt quite cool when u stepped out as it was like a damper! With bungy in waves it could be a whole new sensation!
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Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 08 Mar 06 at 11:25am
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I think that there are a few factors to consider here, chiefly, whether the boat has a self tacking jib and also the wind strength. My boat doesn't have a self tacker so the crew needs to attend to the jib sheets but this is what I do... Light Wind - Helm takes the main so that you can get more control (and also the crew is sat in a foetal position crammed between the kicker and lowers) Medium Wind - Crew takes the main and gets on the wire, they are responsible for trimming the sheet and keeping the boat flat. Helm takes the jib but generally not much need to feather the jib as we don't often get overpowered. Strong Wind - Helm and crew both on wire, in foot straps, gripping with toes and hoping for the best. Crew takes main, Helm takes the jib (mainly as something else to hold on to!) Due to the fact that the Helm is on the transom and the jib cleat is at the front of the cockpit uncleating isn't easy so takes a special technique! It can pay for a particularly skilled crew to take the main and the jib but that takes a bit of practice. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/bearfootdesign - BEARFOOT DESIGN Cherub 2648 - Comfortably Numb |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 08 Mar 06 at 11:41am
Some do and some don't. The percentage with the crew taking the main has increased steadily since we first got the idea of the Aussies in '74. |
Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 08 Mar 06 at 1:45pm
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yeah, crew takes mainsheet upwind, jib stays at the front in cleat. Light winds crew takes main and tacks, light/med helm takes main so crew can monkey in and out, anything more crew takes main and gives back to helm when tacking so can let jib off and grab main when going back out on trapeze. Simple. ------------- Needs to sail more... |
Posted By: bovlike
Date Posted: 08 Mar 06 at 5:23pm
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on the 14 the crew has the main any time the kite is not up! The helm has the jib and changes the trim of it for waves gusts and lulls and a small ease for the tacks. ------------- Ian (Bov) Turnbull 18ft Skiff Ronstan UK http://www.ianturnbullmarine.co.uk - Chandlery, tapered ropes and specialist solutions for sailors who demand the best - BovBoats.co.uk |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 08 Mar 06 at 5:30pm
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Well, wont be too long (hopefully) before we figure out whether it works on cherubs too... ------------- |