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    Posted: 28 Feb 06 at 8:56am

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This of course is a good thing but looking at the numbers of boats at Topper, Oppie, Mirror etc Nationals seems there are already loads of kids sailing.

Seems to me the biggest challenge is keeping them in the sport once they get to university age ... and growing the numbers of adult sailors ...

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The RYA would be best doing something for the 16-50 age range that actually pay the RYA membership fees, like Rick says, there's plenty of kids sailing already!
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Why is it that the RYA will arrange youth coaching weekends, including weekends for non-squad memebers, yet it is up to a rival publication to organise something similar for adults? I'm sure that any number of clubs would be willing to host such events and you never know they might just find a few hidden gems who didn't come up through the youth program!
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At the end of the day the RYA is interested in Olympic medals. At a young age you could consider any child may have the potential. When they are late teens the cream tends to come to the top, so they know who they want to focus on... Post youth only very few will go full time sailing and there are even less sailors in there 20s who sail full time and are not on some kind of funding.

 

On the flip side the UK has lots of good coaches and there is no reason why a keen club cannot just give one of them a ring or if you want class specific training contact the respective class association...

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Originally posted by Jon Emmett

At the end of the day the RYA is interested in Olympic medals. At a young age you could consider any child may have the potential. When they are late teens the cream tends to come to the top, so they know who they want to focus on... Post youth only very few will go full time sailing and there are even less sailors in there 20s who sail full time and are not on some kind of funding.

 

On the flip side the UK has lots of good coaches and there is no reason why a keen club cannot just give one of them a ring or if you want class specific training contact the respective class association...

I believe the RYA remit is broader that just Olympic medals ... yes we all know that the Lottery money is a function of success but I think that the promotion of sailing for 16+ is a worthy cause ...

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Originally posted by Jon Emmett

 

On the flip side the UK has lots of good coaches and there is no reason why a keen club cannot just give one of them a ring or if you want class specific training contact the respective class association...

Thats my point!  It is up to the club to arrange and fund these events, surely as the infrastructure is already in place it would not be a huge leap for the RYA to try a few adult coaching weekends and see how they go, after all it is the adult majority membership who provide significant portion of their funding.  The cost of running such an event would be relatively low, the hosting club can provide the infrastructure in return for an increase in bar takings! All the RYA need to bring is a couple of coaches some video cameras and maybe a few RIBs.  I might even consider joining if I had access to this type of event!

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Originally posted by Guest#260

This of course is a good thing but looking at the numbers of boats at Topper, Oppie, Mirror etc Nationals seems there are already loads of kids sailing.

Most of whose mums or dads sail, in my experience. Broadening the catchment is the issue. 

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Originally posted by tack'ho

Why is it that the RYA will arrange youth coaching weekends, including weekends for non-squad memebers, yet it is up to a rival publication to organise something similar for adults?

Because funding exists for "youth sports" while adults are (not unreasonably) expected to pay their own way. 

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Originally posted by Jon Emmett

At the end of the day the RYA is interested in Olympic medals. At a young age you could consider any child may have the potential. When they are late teens the cream tends to come to the top, so they know who they want to focus on...



But it's also interesting to see some sailors of Olympic medal level who were not outstanding (if I recall correctly) at that age. On the other hand, quite a few of the best 18 year olds seem to have fallen into the "where are they now" category.

I wonder if it's not a classic example of a self-fulfilling prophecy. They identify people who are talented, then they train them, so of course they are more likely to win and therefore everyone can congratulate themselves on their talent-spotting ability.
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Originally posted by Stefan Lloyd

Originally posted by tack'ho

Why is it that the RYA will arrange youth coaching weekends, including weekends for non-squad memebers, yet it is up to a rival publication to organise something similar for adults?

Because funding exists for "youth sports" while adults are (not unreasonably) expected to pay their own way. 

Funding is an extremelly thorny subject.  I would imagine where grants have been received from extrenal agencies they will have very specific criteria about where they can be used.  However where money has been raised form the membership the charity is free to distrubte it as it sees fit, in accordance with its constitution.  I would be suprised if the RYA constitution did not allow it to fund adult trg and coaching.

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