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Living in a box ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 02 Sep 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10 |
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It's difficult to say where the responsibility of the club starts and ends. Ultimately it's down to the members to organise themselves, isn't it? I know that I have stopped racing twice on a Sunday, in favour of spending the mornings focusing on training, and racing in the afternoons... I started doing this because I realised that I just wasn't getting the sort of sailing I needed by club racing all the time... I don't blame the club for that at all! |
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gordon ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Sep 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1037 |
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I have often remarked that racing sailing boats is an odd sport - in that participants spend more time competing than they do training, indeed many never train at all. I can't help believing that this is at the heart of much of the disaffection with dinghy sailing. It can be little fun endlessly repeating the same scenarios (otherwise known as mistakes) to acheive the same result. I feel that clubs should be offering all sailors an opportunity to improve and get more fun out of their sailing. For instance, downwind sailing with a spi only becomes fun when the basic techniques of hoisting, setting, gybing and recovering have been mastered. Most racing does not give a real opportunity to acquire and improve these techniques. A few, well organised training sessions would greatly enhance the enjoyment of downwind sailing... and regular refresher sessions. Which is why I feel that clubs should be doing more than just starting endless races. Setting up and running a "club team" to sail at open events - with jioint trailing sessions, shared travelling even the use of a club RIB... Getting into team racing (the best way to keep the 18-25s in the sport), and many more ideas. All this is based on things that I have done - but not in the UK or Ireland |
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Bumble ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Nov 05 Location: Taiwan Online Status: Offline Posts: 302 |
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I used to believe it was the responsibilty of 'good sailors' to support the local club sailing, as that is the way new starters get better. We all need to stop thin king about ourselves if we want more participation in our great (but only great after you have tried it) sport. Its everyones dream to just do the opens and nationals, but what would happen to the sport? Its rhetorical cos we all know...... it would fall into the proverbial toilet of hobbies for wierdos. |
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mike ellis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339 |
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that sounds like this scotish skiff circuit thing but for all classes, a great idea.
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Hector ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Location: Otley, Yorkshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 750 |
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I can't say I blame you for not wanting to sail 'alone'. As I think I know where your Contender is I don't think you've sailed it since the start of November? Maybe that's another reason why you feel you're '"going backward" when you do come out to play. A solution for those classes that are scattered across the north like yours maybe for sailors from different clubs (but within say 50 miles radius) to coordinate where and when to sail at least once a month. This could either be at at handicap events or at a particular club on a semi-regular basis. That way you can get more fleet racing without travelling to the south coast every weekend for opens. We used to do that in Fireballs and had a couple of great years when several good weekends resulted whereas without the effort, we'd have all just sailed alone. Edited by Hector |
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TonyL ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 28 Jun 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 57 |
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Depends on why the plan was being written. IMHO some clubs come up with a development plan because its a pre-req for getting funding from someone or other! Even if that isn't the case a development plan written by a club is probably going to major on ways to raise participation in club related activities.
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les5269 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Oct 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1530 |
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I don't do many opens now because of other commitments,but I used to travel evey fortnight to an open and really enjoyed it.I miss the open circuit and hope to do a few this year,but I now sail in a boat where we get between 3 and 5 out most w/ends (my old one it used to be just us most w/ends) so the need to travel isn't so bad even if we miss the socials
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fizzicist ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Aug 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 305 |
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There is also the fact that you learn a damn site faster at Opens than you do club racing and getting into the same old habits. Opens are much more fun in that sense.
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mike ellis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339 |
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i like opens more than club racing but the parents hate the driving. to be honest i dont realy like sitting in the car for ages. but at opens you meet new people and have lots of your own class to race against so i find it more fun. maybe this is because the feva is not difficult to dismantle/reasemble
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Matt Jackson ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Sep 04 Location: Darlington Online Status: Offline Posts: 962 |
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If I had a fleet of 10 other boats to club race against I would probably only go to the Nats or inlands depending which is closer but having moved from a very active Contender club (Weston - 'the spiritual home of the Contender') to where it's just me, I find I'm going backward at each meeting I attend so travelling (for me) is essential for keeping me on (or near) the pace at home. I do about 3-4 TT's and a major UK event.
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