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    Posted: 31 Jan 06 at 10:55am
Cheers guys, will look into the vectran, now just need to sort out the twing system!
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I'm not convinced there's any benefit from using rope.

Get a thin enough wire and it's probably about the same weight as wet rope, rope wears quicker than wire, rope is more likely to tangle, rope is (guessing) more expensive.

I guess you can make it all yourself which is and advantage of sorts, it probably wears sails less as well.

What have I overlooked that makes it attractive?

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Originally posted by Matt Jackson

I'm not convinced there's any benefit from using rope.

Get a thin enough wire and it's probably about the same weight as wet rope, rope wears quicker than wire, rope is more likely to tangle, rope is (guessing) more expensive.

I guess you can make it all yourself which is and advantage of sorts, it probably wears sails less as well.

What have I overlooked that makes it attractive?

YES ... the fact that you can slide the splice up and down to adjust the length for the conditions so you have less adjuster rope hanging from the cleat. Plus of course the debated saftey issue.

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OK. So if I don't buy into the theory that they are advantages... what else?
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Originally posted by Matt Jackson

OK. So if I don't buy into the theory that they are advantages... what else?

Stay with wire then ...

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Bit of a flip answer there Rick. I'm genuinely interested as my wires have a few kinks and I will be replacing them in the next few months.
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Originally posted by Matt Jackson

Bit of a flip answer there Rick. I'm genuinely interested as my wires have a few kinks and I will be replacing them in the next few months.

Not really ... as far as I am concerned the advantages have been detailed above. If you don't really feel that is enough just stay with wire.

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I am looking to replace my trapeze lines with rope.

Would you recommend D12, V12 or Excel Vectran

The D12 and V12 allow an adjustable splice

What diameter would you recommend I am thinking or 3mm!

 

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Now there's a disadvantage of rope.  The trapeze wire/rope are a significant windage especially as the leeward unused ones are laying along the surface of the mainsail.  I'd say 2mm wire would be much less windage than 3mm rope.
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i used 2.5mm holt vectran stuff on my 600. I havn't had any issues so far (half a season).

I'd make the splices a generous length at each end, that way if you spot any points that are wearing a bit, you can just move the entire rope up or down a bit and there will be a fresh bit of rope where the wear point is - an extra meter either end is a lot cheaper than an entriely new bit of rope, seems to work for me.

On the windage side of things, would there really be much difference between a 2mm bit of wire and a 3mm bit of rope? aren't most shreouds 3mm anyway? can't remember how big the 600 ones are.

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