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lozza 
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 Topic: Trapeze ropesPosted: 30 Jan 06 at 2:22pm |
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Has anybody had any experience with using rope instead of wire for trapezing? I understand that you can pick from excel D12, V12 or holt equivalent.
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jeffers
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Posted: 30 Jan 06 at 3:01pm |
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I know most of the new 'balls come with a rope as opposed to wire system. The reasoning is that there is less weight being thrown around upstairs (and many of the top guys like the feel they get over wire).
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craiggo
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Posted: 30 Jan 06 at 3:29pm |
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Dont use D12, unless you enjoy being hooked onto a spring!
Had V12 equivalent on the 49er and it was superb, so when a mate offered me his RS700 for the RS open at Chew and I broke his trapeze wires I looked through my rope bag and found a reel of D12, strung it all up with nice splices to enable me to keep the adjusters short, and the bloody stuff was like elastic. I hadnt appreciated the difference between D12 and V12. I'd set the height so that I could just hook on while sitting on the wings (gusty RS open at Chew you see)but when I pushed out I was absolutely flat, getting back in, in the massive wind holes, was tricky, and then the trap. lines would miracoulously shrink back to the point where I couldnt hook on again without standing up. I've now gone back to wire ! |
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Guest
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Posted: 30 Jan 06 at 3:32pm |
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All the Musto's use rope traps - it's nice to be able to adjust the length for the conditions so you keep the amount of rope on the adjuster to a minimum. Hertzog 2.5mm is the stuff but it's hard to get now - I think there are similar types out there ... Rick |
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Iain C
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Posted: 30 Jan 06 at 3:36pm |
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I just used bog standard sheathed dyneema on the Cherub...was a bit bouncy to start with but it's fine now. Loads cheaper too!
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Posted: 30 Jan 06 at 4:07pm |
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I believe Hertzog was a brand name for vectran core rope. There are now plenty of manufactures selling 2.5mm vectran core ropes - they will all work and offer a better solution than wire. Also you can cut them in an emergency which is worth a thought ... Rick |
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JimC
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Mmm, but the other side of that is that I've never had a wire wind itself round my feet but plenty of ropes have. Substitute feet for the neck that is very close to the trapeze line when you chuck it into windward and you have a very nasty possibility... After all the last foot is always rope that you can cut anyway. |
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Posted: 30 Jan 06 at 5:39pm |
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We'll if you feel that way stick with wire ... TT - one of the biggest improvement with this system is that it's easy to splice and it's the splices that allow you to change the length by sliding the splices - so don't tie any knots. Make the loops big then slide the tail in and out to adjust the length. Rick Rick |
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Wave Rider
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Posted: 30 Jan 06 at 6:25pm |
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IMHO no difference using rope on the trapeze, less weight but doesn't feel any more bouncy, obviously does when you first add it, but after that no probs. I also like the security of knowing that if it was ever caught around my neck or anything under water, i could whi[p out the knife and cut myself free....with wire your screwed ass we have found out...
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Skiffe
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Posted: 31 Jan 06 at 7:13am |
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On a 12 we use 4mm Dyneema with 8mm strops, we hang both traps of a strop. It works very well. As for the ends its easy to splice |
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