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Ian S ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 18 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 68 |
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You generally see a limited number of reactions by clubs to open meetings 1). They are a nuisance and interfere with club racing, the revenue they raise is minimal and if the club loses 2 members as a result the net financial gain is negated. 2). An open meeting supports the clubs fleets by offering them a chance to race against (potentially) the best in the world, it will help to encourage other club members to join that fleet, resulting in better class racing rather than handicap racing. Any revenue they raise is incidental as long as the open meeting breaks even, bar and galley takings are the added bonus 3). Open meetings are used to contribute to club finances, and losing a few days sailing each year results in a brand new rib every other season. Observations of sailors seem to indicate they fall into one of the following categories: 1). I enjoy the prospect of competing at other clubs, meeting new people and having good class racing. 2). I don't really know the best way of packing my boat away and rigging it and view the whole prospect as a bit of a hassle and scary. 3). I used to do this in the past but now prefer to stay at home now and pot hunt If your committees are generally made up of category 2 & 3 then your clubs reaction will probably be that opens are a nuisance. At the end of the day opens rely on the clubs to host them, if classes ignore the small clubs they shouldn't be surprised when new blood stops appearing in thier class. Likewise clubs shouldn't be surprised if no one turns up to their events if they don't travel to other peoples. Club racing should be the core activity at clubs, but not at the expense of the open meeting, you learn more at an open because you actually have to think about what you are doing due to unfamiliar surroundings and competitors.. and learning to sail better should be at the top of everyones agenda. How many clubs are there where you can look at the members and then predict who will be in the top three at the end of each series?? Ask the people at your club who did the strategic plan if this is a prospect they want to sell to new members.... |
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Guest ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 21 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 0 |
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Gordon, please tell me they researched the needs of the members before they wrote the plan ... |
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Harry44981! ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 736 |
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I personally think that unless you have a very competitive large (at least 10 boats) fleet of your class open meetings are generally more fun. because there is usually better competition, chance to sail at other venues, chance to sail on different types of water (river/sea/estuary from your lake club for example), make friends from other clubs etc. But club level racing will for most be the main time to sail, as it is usually close to home, and only takes 2 minutes to take the cover off and put the sails up. |
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Stefan Lloyd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599 |
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Not for most people I know. The majority of dinghy sailing in the UK is club-level, not opens. When you've been grid-locked on the way to sailing at 07:30 on a Sunday morning, you realise that travelling to events is less fun than it used to be. Maybe Ireland is different. |
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carshalton fc ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 2337 |
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yer you should of been down with the camera today bns. |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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I'd agree there has to be a balance, for both sailors and clubs. Most sailors enjoy both being a club member, and going off to see new places/see old friends. And clubs can get the message that they exist out into the sailing world by hosting events and getting the club name into Y&Y and class newsletters. Most smaller classes are willing to hold events alongside club racing, assuming the water is big enough, as this way the club is more likely to hold the event, and the organizers don't have to worry that only 3 boats will turn up, or whatever. The club tends to have more of an on shore buzz, too, rather than the deserted feel that can be there when the only club members around are behind the signing in desk and outin the rescue boat. |
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Black no sugar ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Dec 04 Location: Somewhere between Brighton and Lancing Online Status: Offline Posts: 3941 |
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Bough Beech is such a blustery place at times! Mind you, you might have had more fun today |
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carshalton fc ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 2337 |
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travelleling round the country is fun. i sail on a lake that has the shiftest winds ever unless in the right direction, so going to places that are bigger is great fun.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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1) No Clubs, no open events.
2) I've never been at a club where the active travellers were a majority |
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Shingle ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Jul 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 111 |
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Ahh the Bar, the nucleus of every club. I think people do travel less these days, whether it's demographics and those that used to, now have kids, or maybe it's petrol cost or not being able to fiddle you company mileage anymore! |
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