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carshalton fc ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 2337 |
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yer you should of been down with the camera today bns. |
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Stefan Lloyd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599 |
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Not for most people I know. The majority of dinghy sailing in the UK is club-level, not opens. When you've been grid-locked on the way to sailing at 07:30 on a Sunday morning, you realise that travelling to events is less fun than it used to be. Maybe Ireland is different. |
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Harry44981! ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 736 |
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I personally think that unless you have a very competitive large (at least 10 boats) fleet of your class open meetings are generally more fun. because there is usually better competition, chance to sail at other venues, chance to sail on different types of water (river/sea/estuary from your lake club for example), make friends from other clubs etc. But club level racing will for most be the main time to sail, as it is usually close to home, and only takes 2 minutes to take the cover off and put the sails up. |
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Guest ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 21 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 0 |
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Gordon, please tell me they researched the needs of the members before they wrote the plan ... |
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Ian S ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 18 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 68 |
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You generally see a limited number of reactions by clubs to open meetings 1). They are a nuisance and interfere with club racing, the revenue they raise is minimal and if the club loses 2 members as a result the net financial gain is negated. 2). An open meeting supports the clubs fleets by offering them a chance to race against (potentially) the best in the world, it will help to encourage other club members to join that fleet, resulting in better class racing rather than handicap racing. Any revenue they raise is incidental as long as the open meeting breaks even, bar and galley takings are the added bonus 3). Open meetings are used to contribute to club finances, and losing a few days sailing each year results in a brand new rib every other season. Observations of sailors seem to indicate they fall into one of the following categories: 1). I enjoy the prospect of competing at other clubs, meeting new people and having good class racing. 2). I don't really know the best way of packing my boat away and rigging it and view the whole prospect as a bit of a hassle and scary. 3). I used to do this in the past but now prefer to stay at home now and pot hunt If your committees are generally made up of category 2 & 3 then your clubs reaction will probably be that opens are a nuisance. At the end of the day opens rely on the clubs to host them, if classes ignore the small clubs they shouldn't be surprised when new blood stops appearing in thier class. Likewise clubs shouldn't be surprised if no one turns up to their events if they don't travel to other peoples. Club racing should be the core activity at clubs, but not at the expense of the open meeting, you learn more at an open because you actually have to think about what you are doing due to unfamiliar surroundings and competitors.. and learning to sail better should be at the top of everyones agenda. How many clubs are there where you can look at the members and then predict who will be in the top three at the end of each series?? Ask the people at your club who did the strategic plan if this is a prospect they want to sell to new members.... |
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Matt Jackson ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Sep 04 Location: Darlington Online Status: Offline Posts: 962 |
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If I had a fleet of 10 other boats to club race against I would probably only go to the Nats or inlands depending which is closer but having moved from a very active Contender club (Weston - 'the spiritual home of the Contender') to where it's just me, I find I'm going backward at each meeting I attend so travelling (for me) is essential for keeping me on (or near) the pace at home. I do about 3-4 TT's and a major UK event.
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mike ellis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339 |
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i like opens more than club racing but the parents hate the driving. to be honest i dont realy like sitting in the car for ages. but at opens you meet new people and have lots of your own class to race against so i find it more fun. maybe this is because the feva is not difficult to dismantle/reasemble
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fizzicist ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Aug 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 305 |
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There is also the fact that you learn a damn site faster at Opens than you do club racing and getting into the same old habits. Opens are much more fun in that sense.
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les5269 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Oct 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1530 |
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I don't do many opens now because of other commitments,but I used to travel evey fortnight to an open and really enjoyed it.I miss the open circuit and hope to do a few this year,but I now sail in a boat where we get between 3 and 5 out most w/ends (my old one it used to be just us most w/ends) so the need to travel isn't so bad even if we miss the socials
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TonyL ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 28 Jun 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 57 |
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Depends on why the plan was being written. IMHO some clubs come up with a development plan because its a pre-req for getting funding from someone or other! Even if that isn't the case a development plan written by a club is probably going to major on ways to raise participation in club related activities.
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