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redback ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: Tunbridge Wells Online Status: Offline Posts: 1502 |
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I've little experience of the Contender but I remember that you have to go along way aft to tack the thing and the bum drags and the boat stops. I'd rate it close to zero on the roll tacking scale.
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Prince Buster ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 15 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1146 |
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http://www.superspars.com/RS600.html Its the inland champion talking about the way he tacks/gybes. Not sure how much help it would be but im kind of doing my homework on them cos im getting mine next week ![]() ![]() |
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international moth - "what what?"
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mike ellis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339 |
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take a hacksaw to your tiller extension.
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Black no sugar ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Dec 04 Location: Somewhere between Brighton and Lancing Online Status: Offline Posts: 3941 |
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Oh yeah... That applies to Contenders as well! I'm in dire need of any good, average or even shoddy tips, I'll try anything
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Seems folk aren't interested in posting the numbers, never mind save me some work.
The factors I would look at for "roll tackiness" would probably include waterplane area distribution (ie whether the boat is fatter in the middle than at the transom) rise of floor both in the midle and at the transom, how vertical the topsides are, rocker amount and distribution and so on. for instance if you compare a Merlin with a modern Cherub, both are equally flat floored in the centre but the Merlin has more rocker, much less vertical topsides - thus more buoyancy further out when the boat is heeled, more rise of floor further out and the waterplane much more towards the middle of the boat. Some of those differences will be related to what's different in "roll tackiness" between them, some not... Here's a very crude and stylised representtion of how differently the two sorts of shape float when heeled. Edited by JimC |
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Guest ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 21 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 0 |
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Plenty of freeboard ... |
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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Ents are amazing to watch in the light stuff when they roll tack. It seems if they try it in anything over a light breeze it turns in to a roll over tack though....then they do the titanic impression.......
We have a guy in a British Moth at our club, he always seems to struggle on the roll tacking, but given the size of the rig he just ghosts along nicely in the light stuff! Anything more than a F2 and he is toast though (he is quick in the fleet, has been Nat champ at least once and runner up several times). Paul |
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Bruce Starbuck ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 124 |
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GP14's are great to roll tack, yet they are heavy, have hard chines and wide, flat bottom sections and centre main sheeting (mostly). Not quite as good as Ents though. |
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Luke4485 ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 9 |
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u can roll the 4k quite abit more than the 29er this was proved when we went to the bloddy mary and a 29er tryed roll gybeing and ended up swimming i would of said 29er 2-3 4tonner 5-6 |
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mike ellis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339 |
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I can roll tack a feva. they have low freeboard, deep foils, average height rig, and a full length top batten that wont pop in light airs even with kiker on btw it also has centre main that is laser style which is quite easy to sheet in up to f5. |
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