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Stefan Lloyd 
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 Topic: Out95Posted: 13 Jan 06 at 12:44pm |
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The point is getting publicity for sponsors. If this were a just another small-ish tri, do you think we'd all be talking about it?
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Presuming Ed
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Posted: 13 Jan 06 at 12:58pm |
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Because you can race one-design in both a Dart and a Contender, and Contenders plane. This thing gets it's speed from using multi-type thinking - using a long, narrow, low-wave-making hull. But then they blow it, because rather than just building a multi, they add lead and design draggy, high-windage, inefficient float/wing things. This thing is just a line honours w&*k machine - and not a very good one at that, because of the added lead and draggy wings. So when they go to the Swiss lakes, and get beaten by the Decision 35s, I guess they'll be happy because they'll have won the "line honours for multihulls with crap floats and added lead" prize. Woo hoo. Next time I'm going racing, I'm going to tie one hand behind my back so that I can say I've won the "first prize for those sailing with one hand tied behind my back." If you want to build a no-rules line honours w&*k machine, fine. But do it properly. People have known for a very long time that the fastest boats around the course are multihulls. To build a mono that's desperately trying not to be a tri is the action of someone who spends just a bit too long on his own looking at the mirrors stuck to his bedroom ceiling.
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Matt Jackson
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Posted: 13 Jan 06 at 1:10pm |
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I suppose these (vitriolic) comments are still valid if it has moveable water balast or multi trapezes are they? With the trapeze option it doesn't look too different from an Ultra 30 and I believe they were quite popular for a while and are certainly remembered fondly by those that sailed them. I suppose it doesn't look like a Skiff tho so it'll never get this forums approval Edited by Matt Jackson |
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Black no sugar
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Posted: 13 Jan 06 at 1:16pm |
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Don't hold back, Presuming Ed. We'd love to know what you really think! Seriously, I thought it was the sort of bigger boat likely to be purchased by those who really, really enjoy sailing a Laser EPS. |
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Matt Jackson
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Posted: 13 Jan 06 at 1:18pm |
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Ouch!
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Isis
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actualy most of the support for it has come from the skiff fan club! |
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timnoyce
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Posted: 13 Jan 06 at 5:08pm |
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I am a little worried that this boat has caused so much mental pain and traumor for Ed! Someone goes out of their way to design a boat which breaks the mould and does something a bit different and is slated for what seems like no real reason.
Looking at the website I don't see any references anywhere which says that they purposely went out of their way to build a single hulled multihull in order to anger a minority of out spoken people. |
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BEARFOOT DESIGN
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Calum_Reid
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Posted: 13 Jan 06 at 5:27pm |
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agreed
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Prince Buster
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Posted: 13 Jan 06 at 7:11pm |
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Ellen MacArthur went round the world on her trimaran really fast but i
bet she didn't have as much fun as the guys on the Volvo70s now!
Speed isn't everything Ed - some of us sail for fun
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international moth - "what what?"
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Sumo
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Posted: 13 Jan 06 at 7:54pm |
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Life's to short to go slow, stop this foolishness, speed is king! |
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