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Adds ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 14 Jan 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 126 |
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Looks good, shame it isn't canting though
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Cheers Dudes
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Matt Jackson ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Sep 04 Location: Darlington Online Status: Offline Posts: 962 |
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I didn't say all skiffs are identical. I think that pictures of skiffs are a bit dull (it's my opinion I'm afraid, so you have no say in letting it stand), pictures of anything else seem quite radical on this forum. Yes there is trapezing and moveable water balast options. The trapezing sound the most fun! |
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Isis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Sep 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2753 |
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now that is a seriously cool looking bit of kit!
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Femto ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 11 Jun 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 47 |
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Looks great there, but wonder how it would manage in some really lumpy Solent chop?? Nice toy though....
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Presuming Ed ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 641 |
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What's the point? They're saying long narrow hulls are fast. No s£$%. Really? Never knew that. So, compared to a tri or a cat: Heavier - all that lead. Less efficient shape - the drag from those wings must be huge compared to well designed floats. Can't fly the boat from just the wing, as you can fly from one hull/float on a cat or a tri - so less powerful - and in ultra light conditions when you're balanced on one hull, the lead is ripping the guts out of the acceleration. However, I doubt very much that there is enough lead onboard to stop it turning over - the AVS must be horrific, as a result of the aircraft-carrier sized deck the force required to right it again from inverted must be huge. Why would you take the floats off a tri, and use lead for stability instead? Obviously you can't take it offshore, so you're left with day racing against keelboats, blatting round the course faster but getting hammered on handicap. Well, whoopee-f$%^&-do, what a great thrill that would be. "Rounding the windward mark now, do we have an overlap to defend - uh no. The opposition are 10 mins behind. Unfortunately, after this much racing, we owe them all an hour" I bet any racing multi of the same length would be faster. So what's the point?
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Isis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Sep 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2753 |
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So a Dart 15 is faster than a contender... lots of people still sail and love contenders and they are (nearly) the same length. This is repeated all over the sailing world, cats are intrinsicaly faster but why is speed on paper so important? if you want to go fast im sure easyjet are taking bookings, otherwise: sit down and shut up. |
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Sumo ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 144 |
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Those wings are like the racks on a skiff, as soon as it heels and they touch the water the drag must be horrible. The earlier comment about the International Moth is spot on, but with the downside that the crew doesn't have the leverage to keep the thing flat! |
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MikeBz ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 536 |
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I'm with Sumo and Presuming Ed... Because of the wings it has to be sailed virtually flat, which means that very little righting moment is gained from the lead on the keel, so you're just dragging a dead weight around for nothing. All a bit puzzling really. Mike |
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Isis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Sep 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2753 |
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Those wings are nothing like the racks on a skiff... look at the tank
testing photos, they have obviously been designed with what happens
when they touch the water in mind.
![]() Besides, who cares whether it works when it looks as cool as this? Edit: looking at the launching photos it doesnt look like theres a large amount of lead on there either Edited by Isis |
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Sumo ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 144 |
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They may have tested it in a tank, but when the wing goes in the water the drag will increase and that is ignoring what would happen in choppy seas, i.e. big surface area and turbulent flow! |
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