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    Posted: 10 Jan 06 at 7:52pm

I'm glad it's not just me then.

At least it's not rotomoulded.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote phantom_iv Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Jan 06 at 11:25pm
I had a look at it at the boat show, looks a decent
enough bit of kit, much better than the vago. Be
interesting to see how it sails against the V3000
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AND IN THE OTHER CORNER!!!!!

As to be expected, topper are about to launch a revamped version of the topaz which has...imagine that, almost exactly the same spec as the 500!!!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote phantom_iv Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jan 06 at 11:40am
Aren't there enough versions of the topaz already? I count 8 from topper's site
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yer there are millions of them and they are all rubish,  the only decent one seems to be the xygon'y thing!    it seems like rs are going to have a flop on there hands.  it just seems like there is to many of the same boat,  rs500 vago,v3000,  the new topaz, 

 

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Originally posted by turnturtle

What I don't get it that it's cheaper than the 200- basically because it's not as good perhaps? Or cynical me, are they just undermining the strong 2nd hand market for the 200?

Different Market....

RS500 - Easy to sail transitional single trapeze assym boat.... emphasis on fun as well as racing and made from glass fibre so it has enough rigidity without weighing a ton....

RS200 - tippy(er) fast non trapeze assy boat...  emphasis clearly on racing.

I'm looking forward to having a look see on Saturday.

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I had a look at the 500 at the show...personally I had a mixed reaction.  The rig was bigger than I expected, with a very square top section on the main, and big assy. Looked like it would be simple, and a blast to sail.

However, for a potentially sub PY1000 boat it does seem to have been designed down to the price a bit...no controls are led to the side, jib tension can't be adjusted on the water etc.  However, one big factor in the small price (for the size / performance) is that it will apparently be built abroad

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I had a look at it at the boat show.  No doubt it will be built in the far east which is why the price is competitive.  I would guess slightly faster than a Vago, perhaps a bit more forgiving than a V3000, probably a Buzz competititor.  Knowing RS its bound to be a success.  Simple clean design with enough space for an adult in the front (unlike a Vago) but still needs a bit of development.  Like the Vago I think it is designed to fit the training and Menorca Sailing type role - I somehow don't see it as a keen racing class.
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I disagree. I also had a good look at it at the boat show and I think it will make an excellent racing class. Although there are lot of single trapeze asymmetric’s out there most are either showing there age or are just to much boat for a smaller helm and crew. The only real modern option that these people have is a 29er which is a bit sensitive for the inexperienced and the circuit is full of teenagers. Fine if you are one but not so much for the others or mums and dads.

 

The 3000 association have realised this growing problem hence the revamp with Vandercraft and they have produced a lovely boat. The test boat has been sailing at my club for a few months and looks very impressive. What they don’t have however is the mussel of a large company behind them.

 

I think if the 500 is built and marketed as well as the rest of the RS range, if it is as easy to sail as a Buzz or 3000 and if it can give some of the thrills of a 29er then they are onto a winner!

 

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yer you have a good point but if you want trills and good racing you will go for a 4000.  the minimum weight for that is 130kg for helm and crew.  and it has a great association that has events all round the country and who can complain with 50+boats at the nationals,   why would you go for the 500 when you can have this sort of racing?

the people that buy a 500 will be the ones that will put it in the boat park at queen mary's and it will just be one of them things that they will go out in once a year when there is a nice f2 and warm sunshine in the summer. 

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