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5420 
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 Topic: RS300 vs BlazePosted: 10 Jan 06 at 11:42pm |
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only one but i know people that have sailed all three and they all say the vareo is the best
but i think the 300 think with the kite would be cool |
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jeffers
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Posted: 11 Jan 06 at 9:16am |
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I have weighed up the Supernova (and will try and get a ride in one as a guy at my club has got one). I think I am a bit too heavy though at 85Kg. The other argument maybe for taking a Blaze is that I could (club agreeing) sail with the Phantom fleet, both boats having the same PY.
I would the reason the Supernovas beat Phantoms at Welwyn is maybe because they tack a lot faster, I seem to recall that Wlwyn is a very small lake (much smaller than Hunts). The Vareo just doesn't appeal to me which is why I have not considered it (personal taste). Paul |
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5420
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Posted: 11 Jan 06 at 9:38am |
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do you sail at hunts then because if so then the vareo would not be a good opshon any way as you have to sail windwod lewod races in it as the kite is to big to go on a proper reach with you realy have to sail them at clubs like grafam where you can get the full benafit of the hany cap wich is still not fare Edited by 5420 |
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jeffers
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Posted: 11 Jan 06 at 11:42am |
I do sail at Hunts, we do not have room for Windward leeward races. I find the Phantoms tend to slaughter the Lasers in most winds (until you get to survival conditions where the heavy guys in Lasers (like me) start to take over. The only assymetric thats has done well is the RS200, seems perfectly suited for the courses we run. Paul |
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Strawberry
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Posted: 11 Jan 06 at 12:20pm |
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85kg, so that's 13stone. You should be OK in a Supernova at that weight. I think Frank (the Supernova desginer and member at Welwyn) must weih about that much. And, the same for Chris Clarke, the other Supernova sailor. Anyway, as you say best to give it a go and make up wour own mind. There is no substitute for trying things for yourself! I think your right about the reason the Supernovas do well at Welwyn. And also I think it is partly due to the fully battened main hold it's shape in the really light stuff. Welwyn IS tiny, about 16acres I think. Thats what I meant by restrcited waters. Despite this, I can highly reccomend sailing in a fleet of other boats. As I'm sure you have found in the Laser it is so much more fun to race other boats of the same class, than to be in a handicap race. If there is already a fleet of Phantoms at your club, with their "own start" then it would be great to be involved with that. As you say, the club may let you join the Phantom fleet in a Blaze, but it just won't be the same. As has already been mentioned in this thread, they thrive in different winds, and so you would never eeally be on "an even keel". Edited by Strawberry |
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5420
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Posted: 11 Jan 06 at 12:32pm |
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i dont sail at hunts but i think i know who you are do you help with the traning for the cambs team
yer iv sailed the 200 a bit and its good on that kind of corse as you can hold the kite so highy on them |
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allanorton
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Posted: 11 Jan 06 at 1:55pm |
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Jeffers, forget the supernova, I've never had a supernova get near me on the water, let alone on handicap when sailing a laser. If you're bored of your laser, a supernova looks to me to be a step backwards, though they would be more convenient to rig up! Although I've never sailed one, I think the RS300 would offer the best challenge/performance/value. |
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jeffers
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Posted: 11 Jan 06 at 2:23pm |
I have done some help with the Cambs team and hope to do more this year. May even be part of the shore team for the NSSA regatta (good lady permitting). What do you sail 5420? I probably know your face.... Scary thought! |
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dics
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Posted: 11 Jan 06 at 3:56pm |
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Paul A 300 has come up for sale on http://www.rs300.com/ sail no 471. Be quick or miss out this time round. |
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5420
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Posted: 11 Jan 06 at 6:56pm |
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yer i was in the team i sailed the laser full rig my name is jamie i also done the cambs team racing for grafham 180467 is my sail number |
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