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GBR176671 
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Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 46 |
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 Topic: Carbon Topmast for the RadialPosted: 16 Dec 05 at 6:19pm |
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and anyway it's a one design so you can't just change the rules like that.
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Posted: 16 Dec 05 at 6:15pm |
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I am sure any woman who has gained weight deliberatly to sail a boat would be much happier without it ... |
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GBR176671
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Posted: 16 Dec 05 at 6:06pm |
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To be honest It would not be fair on the women who have put the time into gaining the weight for the radial class and have developed fast rig settings for all of the different conditions.
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m_liddell
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Joined: 27 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 583 |
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Posted: 16 Dec 05 at 5:13pm |
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The best place for more info on this is the laser forum, http://www.laserforum.org/. A post on there seemed to indicate that the top section was at the brink of being sorted and ready to be implimented until on of the sections in Europe broke and sent them back to the drawing board. More than enough people have broken Al top sections in the past though... I think moving to a carbon top section is a great idea. The competitive weight range is 65kg-72kg for the radial (77k-80kg for full rig) and I don't see any fit girls weighing 65kg unless they are 5'9"+ in height which is also pretty uncommon. |
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Chew my RS
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Posted: 16 Dec 05 at 1:32pm |
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Ah, yes. Thanks! |
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Isis
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Posted: 16 Dec 05 at 1:29pm |
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Im sure its possible to manufacture for that much but id imagine Laser would want to jump on the 'look at us using space-age materials' wagon and sell for many times that |
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Sarah B
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Posted: 16 Dec 05 at 1:23pm |
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I transferred from the Europe to the Radial and am not sure how much difference a carbon top section would make. Don't forget that at Worlds & Olympics you are given kit, so the shopping around then is irrelevant. The biggest problem I have found with the transition is driving the heavier hull weight (the Laser hull is 10kg more than the Europe) through the waves by using my body action. I am not sure how much easier it would be with a carbon rig as you are still driving the same weight through the water. At the moment a top section is just under £100 - will this cost be achievable with carbon? |
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Posted: 16 Dec 05 at 1:16pm |
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Chew my RS
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Posted: 16 Dec 05 at 12:41pm |
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errr .... what about the new controls; £150 it cost just for a new Harken kicker ... the class has adopted that pretty fast ... With hindsight, I wouldn't have been in favour of that either, but at least that was an 'ease of use' change, not a performance one. Changing the topmast is 'ease of use' for the smaller sailor, but at a disadvantage to those who are at the design weight. I think at the top level the RC may have a little peek under the sail ... You're probably right, but would it be that hard to trick them? The carbon mast would make it easire for smaller sailors to manage the radial what ever their level of ability. If you're too small for the boat, get something else. Because there arn't many of them about and fleet racing is more fun ... If people bought Bytes, then a fleet would develop! P.S. I haven't worked out how to quote yet! |
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Isis
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Posted: 16 Dec 05 at 12:35pm |
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Agreed, modifications to the mast would be spotted at top level but are we saying that every mast will come out the factory the same? It is well know that many of the top level sailors shop around for 'one design' parts of slightly different stiffnesses/weights. (I think the 'fastest' combination is suposd to be a euro bottom section, aus top section and a US hull) Using composites would lead to even more variation than the alloy spars IMO |
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Making it easier for lightweights is unfair on heavy weights.|
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