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errr .... what about the new controls; £150 it cost just for a new Harken kicker ... the class has adopted that pretty fast ...
I think at the top level the RC may have a little peek under the sail ...
The carbon mast would make it easire for smaller sailors to manage the radial what ever their level of ability
Because there arn't many of them about and fleet racing is more fun ... |
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Undoubtedly a carbon topmast would be better than the existing alloy mast, but I would be against the introduction of this on the Laser Radial for the following reasons: 1. More than any other class, the Laser promotes itself as a strict one-design. It is therefore never going to be at the forefront of technology. Anyone who buys a Laser must surely accept this fact. Tens of thousands of people would need to splash out to update their kit and remain competitive, which wouldn't be popular. 2. Carbon masts are easy to sand down and/or build up to change the bend charecteristics. There would be a great temptation on the Olympic hopefuls to do this, to optimise the mast for their own body weight/prevailiong wind conditions etc. Obviously this goes completely against the OD ethos, but would be difficult to police as the masts are hidden under the luff sleave. 3. Just because the IOC have selected the wrong boat for the Olympics, this is not the fault of the average club sailor. Why change the boat to suit the Olympians, who make up a tiny fraction of Radial users. 4. If you want a Laser type boat with a carbon mast, get a Byte! Having said that, I have been toying with the idea of sticking a windsurfer rig on my Laser! |
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That was my original question ... if they think it is a good idea then why use a lame excuse like that? Rick |
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Apart from the weightlifters...
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That figure of 64kgs seems a bit hight to me. I found this; That is 64kgs; so the global average is going to be considerably less that that - just think about Asian, Chinese and Indian women adding to the mix and you'll get a much lower figure. A fit 5'4" woman is not going to weigh 64kgs ... Rick |
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A quick google seems to show 64kg average for women worldwide,
considerably more in the US. The obvious weight for FIT women is
probably lower I'd assume.
AIUI the carbon topmast IS coming, I'm not sure exactly when. |
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This is from the Laser website; Why are there 3 different rigs? This is for people who are of different body weights and abilities. For example, the ideal weight s for racing are: The Laser 4.7 from about 50kg – 65kg(ish), the Laser Radial 60kg-75, and the Standard rig 70g +. My wife sails a radial and we were hoping that the Olympic selection would lead to a carbon mast to make it easier to manage - the 4.7 is very small (4.7sqm infact...) I'd say that the average woman is less than 60kgs on a global scale ... Rick |
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The carbon Radial topmast has been in test for some time; they've had a few around and most people think the results are good.
I don't know exactly how big last year's Women's Radial World champ is, but having sailed against her I certainly don't remember her being unusually large; I would have put her at 5'6"-ish and normal build. |
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....made *some* carbon top sections....
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They made a carbon top section a few yrs back for the fulrig boys to test. I remember dave brooks using his older bro's (andy brooks) one at the radial transitional squad trials. It snapped the wknd he used it, it didnt appear to have the right bend characteristics for use on the smaller radial lower section. That was back in 2002 and i havnt seen another one since. Although its been a while since ive been in lasers. |
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