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    Posted: 15 Dec 05 at 9:40pm

Considering that the 12's and the R's are all about 11,000 miles away from the UK Cherubs and merging the UK rules with the 12's would obsolite all the current boats, almost triple the cost of a new boat and make just about everyone in the class far to light.

It makes almost as much sence as merging the RS700 and the Musto Skiff after all they are both one design single handed skiffs


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I wasn't thinking the Cherubs would align as they are quite different but the R's and 12's seem quite similar. Perhaps the Cherub could work towards it ...

Is this not similar to the unification of the I14 over the years?

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in NZ several of the 12 guys race in the r class regattas aswell.

The 12 is really only big in a very small part of the world. Sydney and Auckland. The rclass guys i think are largely from wellington.

the fact that we are discussing this on a british forum is kinda ammusing to me. Neither the 12 or the R are native.

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In an odd way, these classes are in a similar position to the local one designs that used to flourish around the british coast, but which have faded with the advent firstly of National classes after the war, and then with big manufacturers selling on a national scale. The best of them (X boats and St Mawes one designs spring to mind) are still doing well, but many of them are almost gone.

I would think that the bigger distances involved in competing on an open circuit down under have encouraged local classes (of a rather more exciting nature!) to remain.

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Originally posted by Guest#260

I wasn't thinking the Cherubs would align as
they are quite different but the R's and 12's seem quite similar. Perhaps
the Cherub could work towards it ...


Is this not similar to the unification of the I14 over the years?


Rick




The UK Cherub's are actually quite similar to 'R's and '12's' in fact we have
more upwind sail area than 'R's. We are twin string but have limited our
kites to 21 sqm. Where as the 'R's are unlimited kites but they must fit
within a maximum circumference circle. The '12's are unlimited, but there
small rigs - ( when it gets to 15 -20 knots ) are around the same as UK
Cherubs, but a little more in the kite.

The AUS Cherub's are quite different to 'R's and '12's' and UK Cherubs.
One string and smaller white sails and kites.

I'm not sure if that has cleared things up or made things more
confusing!?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Dec 05 at 12:49pm
Originally posted by Jack Sparrow

Originally posted by Guest#260

I wasn't thinking the Cherubs would align as
they are quite different but the R's and 12's seem quite similar. Perhaps
the Cherub could work towards it ...


Is this not similar to the unification of the I14 over the years?


Rick




The UK Cherub's are actually quite similar to 'R's and '12's' in fact we have
more upwind sail area than 'R's. We are twin string but have limited our
kites to 21 sqm. Where as the 'R's are unlimited kites but they must fit
within a maximum circumference circle. The '12's are unlimited, but there
small rigs - ( when it gets to 15 -20 knots ) are around the same as UK
Cherubs, but a little more in the kite.

The AUS Cherub's are quite different to 'R's and '12's' and UK Cherubs.
One string and smaller white sails and kites.

I'm not sure if that has cleared things up or made things more
confusing!?

Crystal ...

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