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    Posted: 21 Nov 05 at 11:57am

Originally posted by Ian99

Don't be tempted by the "self adhesive" variant - it doesn't work and lifts off the deck with heat cycling from the sun before you even have a chance to go sailing!
With the non self adhesive version (as linked in a previous post), the fancy contact adhesive isn't really necessary, the standard glue sniffers stuff used to stick flooring down with works just as well and is a lot cheaper. Make sure you but the "trade" version of the Evostick, not the "solvent free" weaker than Pritt Stick version which is quite often the only found in DIY stores.

That is not true; I used the self adhesive stuff on my Musto and it has lasted a whole year and is still stuck on and that is on a rough surface.

I brought it from P&B.

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Originally posted by NickA

A lot of contenders have this high friction rubbery sheeting on their decks and in their footwells. 

Progrip is it?  

Where can you get it?  .... and does it work?

Like having the glue on your feet! I can actually trapeze off the cockpit floor in marginal conditions - worth every penny. And yes it covers all sorts of 'blemishes' on the deck as well.

If it's actually for a Contender then talk to Graham Scott at Wavelength and he'll cut it to the correct shape for a Contender. It's not cheap as it'll be a whole sheet used up but the shape is nice. I also have a strip down each side of the cockpit floor and a (knee friendly) patch right up by the forward bulkhead for light wind. I think it was about £50 for all of it but I've some left over.

The other guys in the fleet confirm that the self adhesive is crap - sorry Rick must be the difference in velocity



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Originally posted by Matt Jackson

The other guys in the fleet confirm that the self adhesive is crap - sorry Rick must be the difference in velocity

Perhaps it dosn't stick to that old stuff - I think it's called wood ...

I suspect the people who have tried the self adhesive stuff didn't have the same stuff as I had as it worked fine; or didn't clean the boat properly before they stuck it on ...

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I used impact adhesive from B&Q (in a red tube with a black top) and it worked brilliantly.
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The problem with the self adhesive stuff isn't that it doesn't stick to the boat, it's that the "double sided sticky back plastic" which is used to make it "self adhesive" doesn't stick properly to the progrip!
After a week of sitting in the sun under a cover, you could just lift the progrip off, but getting the double sided tape type stuff off the surface of the boat took a lot of effort and cellulose thinners.
So I'd done the boat preparation part right then (brand new boat keyed with 600 grit wet'n'dry)
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I used the self adhesive pro grip on my 800, and its still there, no problems what so ever. I put it on just under a year ago, so I dont know why everyones having problems with it.
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Does anyone know where you can buy this in sheets rather than the usual strips?

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Can I recommend if you are after a large sheet (1.1m x 1.8m) you contact Xtremity on 01329 663883, you can get it in either adhesive backed or plain, in a variety of colours.

Xtremity are the UK supplier of Pro grip to the Retail and Trade outlets and developed the both the plain and the sticky version some of you love and some hate.

If applied correctly the sticky backed verison should last as long as the non glued version. One of the main reasons for the sticky one not lasting is poor surface preparation. unfortunatley salty and or greasy  surfaces doesn't make for very good bonding!

The other forgotten art is to make sure you round of any corners, if you leave it witht he cut square corners it is easier for the pro grip to start to lift, and as with any stuck down item once they start lifting they get pulled, caught and all the water/salt/dirt get's underneath and then causes them to lift.



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FWIW

I've used two surfaces, two pot polyurethane varnished wood and two pot polyurethane painted glass. On both I found that adhesive backed stayed on longer than evostik.

I tried polyurethane glue and found it stuck to the painted surface but not the progrip.
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Originally posted by xtremity

Can I recommend if you are after a large sheet (1.1m x 1.8m) you contact Xtremity on 01329 663883, you can get it in either adhesive backed or plain, in a variety of colours.

Xtremity are the UK supplier of Pro grip to the Retail and Trade outlets and developed the both the plain and the sticky version some of you love and some hate.

If applied correctly the sticky backed verison should last as long as the non glued version. One of the main reasons for the sticky one not lasting is poor surface preparation. unfortunatley salty and or greasy  surfaces doesn't make for very good bonding!

The other forgotten art is to make sure you round of any corners, if you leave it witht he cut square corners it is easier for the pro grip to start to lift, and as with any stuck down item once they start lifting they get pulled, caught and all the water/salt/dirt get's underneath and then causes them to lift.

CHeers, I have a new boat coming in the new year and want to get it progripped up before it gets wet. I will work out how much I need.

Do you  know how much it is for a sheet that size?

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