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49erGBR735HSC 
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Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
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 Topic: RS500 ...Posted: 04 Dec 05 at 6:10am |
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The 5-tonner was and won't be an awful boat, pretty cracking from my point of veiw. Mind you the 49er takes saling to another level. No matter how much weight the 5000 can lose, she can never come close to a 49er (I hope you were making a sarcastic comment yellowhammer!!!!).
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Stefan Lloyd
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Posted: 04 Dec 05 at 8:08am |
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Really though, I wonder if any boats are being mass-produced, in the way a mainstream consumer-products manufacturer would use the term. JimC's post on another thread brings home what a tiny market there actually is for dinghies. |
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yellowhammer
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Posted: 04 Dec 05 at 9:24pm |
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Just trying to remedy the Mogadon
and your average 1.8LX is cheep to make in numbers, but you wouldn't want to race one long term, even if everyone else on the circuit was restricted to unmodified "SMOD 1.8s" |
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Laser 3000 @ Leigh & Lowton SC
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furtive
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Posted: 07 Dec 05 at 3:36pm |
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If anyone's interested, there's another pic of the 500 here http://www.hisc.co.uk/nupdate.htm |
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JimC
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Posted: 07 Dec 05 at 3:41pm |
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Very strong touch of Bethwaite about the chineline - it looks to me as if there's the same slight inversion of the chine line aft I see on the 29er and 49er. |
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Shingle
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Posted: 07 Dec 05 at 4:24pm |
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Did they put the name on the sails so it couldn't be confused with anthing else?
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Drink Feck girls!
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Medway Maniac
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Posted: 08 Dec 05 at 12:21am |
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Or maybe just RS Feva? See first and last images here: http://www.hyc.ie/dinghies/rsfeva/winRSFevaPics.asp
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grimupnorth
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Hello people Been lurking here for ages - forgive me chiming in late, but . . . I'm another one for whom the RS500 looks like a let-down, since I do want to get back into sailing, I'm typical SMOD fodder and yet there is only one choice for me at the moment and it's not the 500. I sailed 'old OD' classes as a yoof - Ent, GP14, Lark - and now that the kids are bigger, the wife & I want to sail again (by which I mean race). We've sailed most of the two-hander SMODs on summer holidays with Neilson et al, and we're in the market for a single-wire assy boat which is as well sorted as the RS800. We'll almost certainly get a L4000 and will most likely have a great time. My purpose in posting is not to invite more comparison of L4000/RS800/505/FB etc but to point out that I think a key buying criterion which most of the SMOD market under-serves is weight range. Am I right in thinking that the SMOD model absolutely must mean a narrow weight range, because of OD rules on mast & sails? (Apart from the L4000 attempt at equalisation, natch). If so, then it's obvious to me that RS are looking to serve potential SMOD buyers who are not sensitive to weight range ( & hence performance) - ie people looking for family / training / pottering boats. And to someone like me, that's exactly what the RS500 is. And for the reasons stated above (plus our combined weight of 160kg+) I won't be buying one. |
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JimC
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Yes but... If you want to win the Champs then you need to be in the weight range. If you're not too bothered about winning the Champs and don't mind that a few folk beat you because they're a lot nearer the correct weight range but slightly worse sailors than you (a lot worse always loses) then how much does it really matter as long as you're enjoying the sailing and racing? Also if you're most concerned with club racing then the ideal weight *might* be different to the Champs winning weight - I have established to my satisfaction that the ideal weight for a RS400 at my middle sized reservoir is a lot lighter than the general consensus is that it should be for Championship sailing at sea. (Don't start a thread on this boys, its been done to death). How much difference the equalisation thing makes other than in the heads of the sailors (admittedly by far the most important place) is perhaps a moot point. Producing any real evidence that it works or not would be a rather complex operation that I'm quite sure no-one has tried. It would involve running multiple race series in different wind strengths with the sailors not knowing how their boat is set up weight and righting moment wise! |
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grimupnorth
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Posted: 08 Dec 05 at 3:42pm |
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Good point Jim. I'd put my concern the other way around: the possiblity that we will get beaten around the club racing track just because of our likely team weight is a potential turn-off for me & my wife. We're not Champs material, but would like to be competitive! Also, in my (not huge) experience it's a pain sailing a trapeze boat when you're always on the margin of being sufficiently powered up. So the thought of sailing a Vago, Xenon, Rs500, V3000 etc is not appealing for a 160kg team on inland waters, unless maybe if we were somewhere with regular 15kt+ breezes. We could 'just enjoy the sailing & racing' if we got a middle-aged Ent or Lark for under £1k, too! cheers |
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